Police Officers murder homeless man with a mental illness, found 'not guilty'.

[Kyriakos]

What about the mentally ill killers who also are Potus?

 

[Farm Boy]

Isn't choosing who to murderize and who to let live the basic and fundamental job function of any chief executive?

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

The officers may face federal charges.

http://rt.com/usa/fbi-kelly-thomas-evidence-589/

 

[Antilogic]

Shall we call the cops to inform them? It's an old problem that I'm not smart enough to fix. Does the fact that firemen are way more likely to be arsonists than the general public balance out the benefits of having fire departments? How do you control them while retaining them? Does the fact that policing is likely to attract violent, abusive, and sometimes homicidal evil counterbalance the benefits of having professional police? What are the alternatives? How do you control them while retaining them?

Only insight I really have is that I think it's pretty dangerous how closely the hands of the executive branch often work and bond with the hands of the judicial branch that is supposed to control them.

Well, there are stand your ground laws...

So sounds like a tragic case, but I don't get from the OP what exactly you think is wrong with the law here? That the police officers involved were allowed to defend themselves in court? That the verdict was decided by an untrained jury rather than a professional judge? Seems that the problem is more with police practices than with the law.

"The law" (or "Johnny law") is an American street expression for the police, I think that is what the OP was referring to (at least, that's how I read it).

I think that is what should be done with the killers in this case - given their history of violence and all.

+1. I'd add that to Cheezy's earlier post too but it's too long to quote.

 

[El_Machinae]

Might only need a couple. Might not necessarily even need to be the right disease, just one "close enough." Dreaming, I am, I suppose.

The main problem is that it appears fairly early on, before someone can become 'charismatic', and is commonly preceded by a couple of years of the person being 'disturbed'.

And so, we just watch our loved family members suffer in unproductive hospitals while other people cluck their tongues, vaguely hoping 'they get the help they need'.

 

[Labtec600]

inb4 the usual sheep arrive to defend these pigs.

"Baaa baaa he was resisting baaa baaaaa law and order baabaaaa dirty hobos..."

It's always easy to judge the actions of others from the safety of your own home.

That being said, if you watch the entire video and not just the "highlights"the situation was escalated by Officer Ramos. Mr. Thomas was cooperating and sitting on the ground when Officer Ramos had a problem with the way he was sitting. It escalated from there. When the struggle broke out, Officer Cicinelli and all remaining officers of course moved in to restrain Mr. Thomas. Mr. Thomas did resist - not saying he should have been died because of it - but this escalated the situation also as he fought with the Officers.

It is a sad affair. The guy shouldn't have died. There are thousands of interactions with Police everyday but then things like this happen, it stains everything. It makes an Officers job harder and corrodes the public's trust in Officers.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

What about the mentally ill killers who also are Potus?

It didn't save Leon Czolgosz, who was shown to have a long history of mental illness, but was still executed for assassinating President McKinley.

 

[Yeekim]

Former Fullerton police Officer Manuel Ramos, 39, has pleaded not guilty to one count of second-degree murder and one count of involuntary manslaughter. Former Cpl. Jay Cicinelli, 41, has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter and excessive use of force./.../
The officers were found not guilty. Let this be a lesson to the rest of the population that are both homeless and mentally ill for daring to exist. This is the law's new way of 'dealing' with us.

I could understand them not being found guilty of second-degree murder, but how can anyone claim no excessive force was used?

 

[warpus]

Excessive force in the U.S. means you used a tank to open a can of beans.

 

[ParkCungHee]

The police were charged and faced trial. At trial they were found not guilty. Just like Zimmerman was, take it up with the jury if you think they got it wrong.

The deceased was a mentally ill drug addict with a history of violence. Does no one else think that perhaps he should have been in an institute where he would have been forced to get treatment instead of wandering the streets?

Why does the Jury excuse the behavior of one and not the other?