Political Compass III

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I'd say for some people who take the test, they come out more left than they do, but when they scale the politicians, they come out more right than they should.

Political practice is frequently more authoritarian than the median opinion on the street, it's the nature of the beast - when you're inside and have the tools available, you see a broader and more interventionist role in culture and social policy.

And governmental economic policy is generally a lot more neoliberal than the median opinion on the street.

So the gulf between elected officials and real people's results is perfectly natural.
 
Political practice is frequently more authoritarian than the median opinion on the street, it's the nature of the beast - when you're inside and have the tools available, you see a broader and more interventionist role in culture and social policy.

And governmental economic policy is generally a lot more neoliberal than the median opinion on the street.

So the gulf between elected officials and real people's results is perfectly natural.

What you said is true, but that wasn't what I was saying.

Take Obama for instance, placed at +2 +2 (Roughly.) That's just a guess of where he's at (IMO its a bad guess, but whatever.)

But I've heard of Republicans scoring -2 when they actually took the test.

Of course, I'm so far right that I'm STILL far-right according to the test. But for most people who take the test, it seems it tells them they are more left than they actually are. And just the opposite for politicians.
 
Well, normal people actually take the test, actually answer the questions. Politicians are somewhat arbitrarily placed on the spectrum based on how the testmakers THINK the politicians would answer.

This is a very difficult thing to place because: A: The politician may have not said anything on the issue, and B: Even if they did, there's no way of knowing that's their real view.

I took the test and answer the question the way I expect a politician to answer (using clues from political rhetoric and government policies) and I got about 4, 4 (in the blue quadrant).

It might not be their "real view", but if it's based on their policies and rhetoric in public, you really can't say that's any less "real".
 
This is a very difficult thing to place because: A: The politician may have not said anything on the issue, and B: Even if they did, there's no way of knowing that's their real view.
Unless you found a way to look into Obama's brain, you can only judge him by his rhetorics and actions, which is what PC did as well when answering the questions for him. So I don't see why you two should come to different results, except when your definitions on "left and right" differ, which is the case.
 
Great. Now take it without shooting for a specific score, so we can see what you're really like.

You are realy funny to think I can shoot for something on this test, but any way:
Economic Left/Right: 3.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.05

Economic Left/Right: 1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.23

I am a little less negative than the last time I took it.:mischief:
I usually do not strongly do anything, and since none of the questions seem to demand a strong answer, I just agree or disagree. I am not sure if that makes a big difference. Now I may have used strongly the last time, but honestly, I cannot remember. By the way I don't think I gave a false answer the last time (March), so I must have changed my opinion on something.
 
I think with this test it's sort of hard to appear right-wing on it, because its American-style questions but you'd have to be very right wing to appear leftist. It skews to what most Americans would consider left.

Having said that, if you did this on paradoxplaza OT it would be much further to the right and I *think* there are a higher proportion of Europeans on that site than here. The J makes a good point though; so many of the questions say nothing about your political views and everyting about your common sense. Is it natural for children to keep secrets? Of course it's natural, but whether you think it's acceptable that determines how authoritarian you are.
 
Is it natural for children to keep secrets? Of course it's natural, but whether you think it's acceptable that determines how authoritarian you are.

Interesting. Yeah, I noticed that too, and yeah, of course I agreed its natural.

Is it acceptable? Depends on the secret, so that isn't a good question either...
 
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.82
 
Why should "normal people" and politicians perform differently?

Obama isn't really "far right", but I don't associate that term much with the economic spectrum anyways. All I'm trying that in a test that obviously tries to map worldwide politics (as evidenced by their selection of famous politicians they portray), most American politicians (including most democrats) fall into the categories center-right, right, and further right.


Interesting, because Keynesian policies are really more often invoked by the left on our side of the pond.


The heirs of Keynes did become farther left over there than they did here.
 
What you said is true, but that wasn't what I was saying.

Take Obama for instance, placed at +2 +2 (Roughly.) That's just a guess of where he's at (IMO its a bad guess, but whatever.)

But I've heard of Republicans scoring -2 when they actually took the test.

Of course, I'm so far right that I'm STILL far-right according to the test. But for most people who take the test, it seems it tells them they are more left than they actually are. And just the opposite for politicians.

Well yeah. If you actually ask most people, free of partisan-political framing, about government policies regarding either society and culture or economics, their opinions cluster around a sort of soft libertine bolshiness.

One case in point is polling about income distribution - EVERYONE thinks it's much more equal than it is currently. But also thinks it should be even more equal than that.

I'm not sure why actual politics as she is practiced skews so right and authoritarian compared to that, but it does.
 
I think I have figured out my "label" if I were to use one. Libertarian Market Socialist

Economic: - 8.88
Social: -6.26

 
you'll have to justify "market" though since you're an economic commie :nya:
 
:yup:

Planned economies are subject to stagnant suckage.
 
Economic Left/Right: -0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05

 

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I retook the test yet again, and got:
Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13

Not much of a change, really, although I would've thought I'd go further to the left more than further to the right.
 
I just got another follow-up evaluation at my crappy retail/customer service job. I bet I would score much farther to the left if I took this test again tonight. Working for The Man does much to sour my opinion on capitalism.
 
He just means a free market of worker's co-ops.

:yup:

Planned economies are subject to stagnant suckage.

Okay, but what if someone creates a business that has a more desired product, and doesn't care what these worker's co-ops demands, and is able to find labor but like a true capitalist in the Marxist sense, underpays them for their work, but via free agency, these people choose to work for him anyway, since he pays more. But he gives them no say, can fire them whenever, and out-competes the other firms and they with their worker co-ops go out of business. How does your non-command economy handle this distortion in the workers' paradise?
 
Economic Left/Right: -1.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77


A change from my previous 1, -7.5. I'm slowly turnig into Mao!
 
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