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Poll: Chryshe Builds - 400 BC

Discussion in 'Civ2 - Game of Democracy II' started by MonkE, Oct 18, 2002.

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What policies for Chryshe province shall be adopted?

Poll closed Oct 21, 2002.
  1. Reneaux should prepare for growth by building a temple.

    5 vote(s)
    55.6%
  2. Reneaux should build an archer.

    4 vote(s)
    44.4%
  3. Reneaux should build a warrior.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Reneaux should build something else (see post).

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Dellham should prepare for growth by building a temple or guards.

    6 vote(s)
    66.7%
  6. Dellham should produce units for expansion.

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  7. LC should prepare for growth by building a temple or guards.

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  8. LC should should produce units for expansion.

    6 vote(s)
    66.7%
  9. CJ should prepare for growth by building a temple or guards.

    4 vote(s)
    44.4%
  10. CJ should should produce units for expansion.

    5 vote(s)
    55.6%
  11. Something vital is missing in this poll! (see post)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. MonkE

    MonkE Primate Philosopher

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    Legendary City (LC): +2 Food, 3 Shields, 3 Trade; Archer 15/30 (5 turns); grows in 5 turns, no riot. Can IPRB $4 in 1 turn.

    CJ: +1 F, 2 S, 2 T; Settler 20/40 (10 t); grows in 8 t, no riot if Elvis stays. Can IPRB $8 in 3 turns to finish settler in 9 turns.

    Reneaux: +2 F, 3 S, 3 T; Settler 38/40 finishes next turn, then +1 F, 3 S, 3 T, grow in 26 turns unless settler founds city. Next build?

    Dellham: +1 F, 3 S, 3 T; Settler 19/40; grows in 1 t (Elvis), then +1 F, 4 S, 4 T. Can IPRB $2 this turn and $6 in 2 turns to finish settler in 5 turns.

    We must decide when our cities will be allowed to grow bigger. This requires temples or more guards. A decision on Reneaux is needed immediately. Other city decisions are at least 5 turns away.

    Temples (40 S, 14 turns) are a good long term option, but take longer to build. Archers (30 S, 10 turns) make very good defense. Warriors (10 S, 4 turns) are quicker to build and will upgrade eventually to riflemen with Leo’s (not recommended for Reneaux, but could be good for a city with a strong defender).
     
  2. GaryNemo

    GaryNemo Settler from None

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    Very thoughtful, MonkE, and deserving of everyone's attention. Not looking at the game now (shame on me) I agree that Temple, Settler, or Archer is the basic triage. A good way to focus discussion. We need all three, so perhaps one city could build a Temple, another an Archer, another a Settler. And an Archer, is it a Guard, and escort for a new city, or a free military unit?

    These questions could be resolved by planning what could we do with a unit? Where do we need a unit? Which cities are better than others for Settler production? And, which cities will be more productive with more serfs?

    Reneaux could work well, if larger due to a Temple... Its settler will go found at North Boreum -- met by the Archer from OP -- would you like to Road the Oasis on its way?

    And there is a TFalls Settler coming North Real Soon Now. It has only one more Road to build to complete the Road to Elysium, and I'd like you to found a city with it. LC will complete an Archer in 5, and I hope it eradicates that loose Viking Horse! We also have a spare Warrior in Gabba Gabba, which you might use somehow.
     
  3. Serutan

    Serutan Eatibus Anythingibus

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    To clarify my votes on Dellham and LC:

    Dellham should build a Temple, LC should build an Archer.

    IMO CJ is in a location to be a settler factory.
     
  4. GaryNemo

    GaryNemo Settler from None

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    I think the Dellham Temple is overdue. I agree with Serutan, LC Archer to kill Viking Horse, and CJ would be a terrific settler factory.

    Serutan is giving Chryshe its Reneaux Settler for work. We seem to need a road on the Oasis. If Reneaux is building a Temple, perhaps we can contemplate investing in the Wine Mine...
     
  5. Zwelgje

    Zwelgje Deity

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    Dellham should continue producing settlers, it has an archer but we could consider building a warrior first to maintain happiness. So my vote for Dellham: first warrior, then settler.
    Reneaux needs a bit more defense, one warrior for such a great town is not enough! I vote archer.
    LC should be putting out units to protect future settlers.
    CJ should produce one more settler.

    In general: these cities are all close to the area that needs to be settled so it's more convenient to let them produce as many units as they can. Units coming from the south need a longer way to travel and we still don't have roads that go all the way to the north...
     
  6. GaryNemo

    GaryNemo Settler from None

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    Reneaux should prepare for growth by building a Temple. Reneaux is inland, it does not need a guard. In fact, the Warrior is available, according to my analysis. Maybe Reneaux's next build is an Archer, or a Caravan.

    Similarly, I voted for all 4 cities to produce a Temple! That is a bit overkill, I agree, but the whole bunch are terrific sites with many possibilities. Some of them will need to produce Archers to guard our new cities. We really need the River City, SE of Forest, exactly midway between Dellham and Castle Jayne. It will need a guard right now, due to the wild Viking Horse, but later: no guard. So, if we don't have an immediate use for a unit, build a Temple, then a Caravan for Cop's. Dellham and CJ are both building Settlers. What will they do?

    The Reneaux Settler is available - Boreum doesn't need it to found North Whale Point on the Pure Green - that will be handled a few turns later by a Mordhiemia Settler. Of course, the city could be founded quicker by the Reneaux Settler, and the OP Archer is available immediately. If we first Road Reneaux's Oasis, it will merely go to corruption, so let's not bother right now. Btw, even working Wine, we only loose one corruption.

    Regarding Dellham, Legendary Iron City, and Castle Jayne... if we don't build Temples, what shall we do with the units? And how might we control happiness? CJ would be relieved if the Phx were to step out of town, but that is scary, eh? So if we're going to build a Settler in both Dellham and Castle Jayne, one of them can found River City, so let's send the Reneaux Settler to Boreum to found that city ASAP. More cities, the sooner the better! Other than that mantra, you can see I am confused by all the interrelated options.

    The big question is, what does the Reneaux Settler do? Head for Boreum to found that North Whale Point ASAP? Mine the Wine? Found the River City, SE of Forest?
     

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