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(POLL) In which difficulty level do you find the balance between enjoyable and challenging?

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by KyivanRusCivPlease, Nov 1, 2017.

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In which difficulty level do you find the balance between enjoyable and challenging?

  1. Prince

    29 vote(s)
    9.6%
  2. King

    75 vote(s)
    24.8%
  3. Emperor

    123 vote(s)
    40.6%
  4. Immortal

    54 vote(s)
    17.8%
  5. Deity

    22 vote(s)
    7.3%
  1. KyivanRusCivPlease

    KyivanRusCivPlease Prince

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    Interesting to know what level will be the winner)
     
  2. Ferocitus

    Ferocitus Deity

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    Emperor level at marathon pace, with ludicrous size Ynamp maps, all civs
    including all DLCs, max. number of city-states,
     
  3. Vahnstad

    Vahnstad King

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    None, since tall is even harder on prince than wide on deity. I'm now trying to at least win deity once (and i'm pretty sure i will be able to do it, except if they change it with a major patch), and i will probably continue to play on immortal / deity, also dependant on the civ and which victory i'm going for.
     
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  4. bbbt

    bbbt Deity

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    Emperor if I want a more peaceful game (where I mostly don't capture/take AI cities and just build my own), and where I can do things like found a religion and try some new beliefs, build a bunch of useless-but-pretty wonders, etc. Immortal (or sometimes deity) if I want a more aggressive game and will start out primarily with neighbor-rushing.

    Emperor I get ahead too soon if I start out with lots of conquering, and immortal/deity I feel like I have to be primarily considering 'optimum' play, which I don't really enjoy doing. Maybe the most recent patch will change this balance a bit though.

    I also tend to enjoy settling tons of cities, which given the game's current meta, makes things easier.
     
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  5. AmtrakQuebec

    AmtrakQuebec King

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    I went with Immortal, as I see many others have so far as well (6/10). For me, it is, in my playtesting at least, actually somewhere between Emperor and Immortal, but it is closer to the Immortal end of that range. Maybe there should be a new level, like Emportal or Imperor :p (similar to Smarch... lousy Smarch weather).
     
  6. Uberfrog

    Uberfrog Deity

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    I'm currently playing my first proper game since the patch on Emperor and found it pretty forgiving, but not a walkover, especially if you don't archer rush. Deity I find manageable, but like others have said, you need to get off to a good start. I've yet to try Immortal itself, but I have a feeling my answer would be somewhere between Emperor and Immortal.
     
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  7. masda_gib

    masda_gib Warlord

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    Somewhere between Eperor and Immortal for me. Emperor games allow to have a little fun while Immortal games are challenging.
    ...I voted Emperor
     
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  8. Rosty K

    Rosty K King

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    I said King, but only because I dislike the idea of the AI getting extra settlers. I think I've said it before too.
     
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  9. Karpius

    Karpius King

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    I have yet to try a game beyond King. So far, King has been an even challenge for my style of play and seems rather immersive.

    Based on what I hear on this forum, higher levels would force me into strategies I might not enjoy. Though I suppose at some point I will rise to the challenge for the challenge's sake alone.
     
  10. EgonSpengler

    EgonSpengler Deity

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    This is where I am. I enjoy a game with some wars sprinkled in, but the AI cannot play the game. At Immortal, combat gets tougher but then the game bends in other directions that I don't enjoy. I've been messing around with the all of the game's start settings, trying to find the best start conditions for me, and now, after a year of trying, I'm being frustrated by new bugs.

    So the answer to the OP's question is, "None, and I'm getting tired of trying."
     
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  11. Takfloyd

    Takfloyd Prince

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    Where's the "Deity is far too easy(because of AI stupidity), I want the return of Sid difficulty" option?
     
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  12. Ravellion

    Ravellion Prince

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    I've chosen emperor, but I have chose to refrain from warring too much when playing CIV 6. When continuously warring and not caring about shiny wonders or cool religions, even Deity is fine.
     
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  13. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    I unfortunately haven't been able to find any such difficulty due to the way the AI's bonuses are front-loaded. Any difficulty where the late game is challenging has dramatically constrained options in the early game (competing for early wonders/great people requires an investment disproportionate to the reward, and attack by a numerically/technologically superior force is essentially inevitable). At any difficulty with a good early-game balance between the human and AI, however, the AI ceases to be a relevant consideration by the midgame. There's no way (at least above prince) to set up a human vs. AI game that has a consistent level of challenge at all game stages.
     
  14. Olleus

    Olleus Deity

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    This is the number 1 reason why I only play a couple of games of Civ after every patch, rather than continuously enjoying myself. Couldn't put it better myself.
     
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  15. ZubieMaster

    ZubieMaster Warlord

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    This is also my answer, should add it as a choice in the poll if still possible.
     
  16. UWHabs

    UWHabs Deity

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    Would be kind of neat if there was one setting where basically each era, the AI's bonuses increase. So they start out ancient era at Prince, then basically classical at King, etc... That way, you start out the same as the AI in terms of building out and exploring, so it's not like you're down 2-3 cities to the AI right from the beginning, but as you get later on in the game, it gets more and more challenging. Or if there was a difficulty setting which was more like an adaptive difficulty, so that the further ahead you are, the more they bonuses. Something like they get the Deity bonuses if they're an era behind you, but get bonuses more like King or Emperor if tied in era. And they maybe get a combat bonus depending on troop differences, or are simply given free builders or settlers occasionally if they fall behind. Could even do it totally arbitrary based on each individual level - so if you have no faith production, they don't get a bonus there, but if you're beating them in science, they would get a larger science multiplier.
     
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  17. Archon_Wing

    Archon_Wing Vote for me or die

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    I play on King and sometimes Prince if I want to do weird stuff. Though King gives some room to test out odd stuff too.

    I generally like to play quickly, finish a game in a few hours, take some screenshots, and then post on the forums about my stupid escapades. Then I can go play another game and do something different. Oftentimes, I usually start a game because I read something on the forums and tried to do it in game.

    I also dislike micromanagement of most kinds and of all honesty that's probably why I never manage to get too high in any civ game and also struggle somewhat in places I probably shouldn't. All incarnations of Civ generally have something that makes me not want to work with it; it's just too much effort and Firaxis has never made a working UI. Sometimes even getting the game to do what you told it to do is an impossibility and that tends to be what I think really holds back the franchise as a whole. I did try a few deity games where I took out civs and kept getting fed settlers because the AI was too stupid to protect them from Barbs so I was quite ahead and ended up with way more cities than i could have at a lower level. Ended up quitting because I thought it was stupid, though I imagine I'd find some way to screw it up.

    I do have a bad tendency to want to be #1 in everything, so seeing the AI always ahead for so long tends to annoy me. (Except for religion, I can't even maintain the rest and keep up with that on Prince....)
     
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  18. Peserwin

    Peserwin Chieftain

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    Emperor is my pick, combined with a mod to eliminate AI's free settler, because its the last difficulty level which allowes a bit of roll playing. I can beat deity easily by warmongering but I don't want it to be the only way to play this game.
     
  19. Art Morte

    Art Morte Prince

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    Emperor for mostly peaceful games, Immortal when feeling like conquering cities. Due to this my Emperor games are actually harder to win, since conquering other civs is actually by far the best strategy.

    I do dream of a Civ game, though, where the AI was good enough to not require game-changing bonuses.
     
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  20. AmtrakQuebec

    AmtrakQuebec King

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    I didn't think we were allowed to play on Prince anymore.... you know, since he died and all.
     
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