Poll: Should Workers and Archaeologists Traverse Mountains After Researching Ballistics?

[civplayer33]

Scorched earth tactics were banned

I see. A bit of a shame, really, I was thinking about asking on GitHub for this but I guess it won't happen if this was rejected earlier. It makes sense, since there is a lot of predictive estimation involved in judging when to pillage one's own tiles.

That being said, however, my point still stands, which is that it is somewhat easier for the attacker to disrupt tunnels using scouts or helicopters than it is for the tunnel owner, who has to use workers. It's not a huge deal, though, and at this point I'm a bit ambivalent when it comes to this poll.

 

[Enginseer]

From a modder's perspective, I suppose making two separate columns for passing either ice or mountains makes sense? Or can this already be done via UnitPromotions_Terrains and UnitPromotions_Features?

Correct.

 

[Tekamthi]

+ Or alternatively, workers (and archeologists) can go on OWNED mountains (past ballistics technology), and build roads to allow other units, allied or not, to go on the mountain.

This is best case imo... i don't see it overlapping w/ inca ability very much as some have posted

Not to mention the AI aren't exactly trained to hide workers/archaeologist inside a mountain.

this highlights the problem with OP scenario I think... HUMAN is able to send workers as scouts into enemy mountains and grief AI who cannot effectively do same

 

[HungryForFood]

Does it help if we give a combat unit the ability to cross mountains? Then the AI can just use that to cap the workers. Best unit for this is probably the recon line.

 

[tu_79]

Does it help if we give a combat unit the ability to cross mountains? Then the AI can just use that to cap the workers. Best unit for this is probably the recon line.

Don't zeppelins do that already?

 

[Enginseer]

Does it help if we give a combat unit the ability to cross mountains? Then the AI can just use that to cap the workers. Best unit for this is probably the recon line.

Don't zeppelins do that already?

And Helicopter Gunships.. I suppose Recon could use a buff(as a promotion) since its combat-usage is very... limited.

 

[Enginseer]

Passed. Ice Breaker is now renamed to Traverser with its description allowing those with the promotion to pass mountains and ice.

 

[ryanmusante]

Don't zeppelins do that already?

speaking of that, request this be added into core because ofc.

-- Remove Barbarian Zeppelins
INSERT INTO Civilization_UnitClassOverrides
(CivilizationType, UnitClassType, UnitType)
VALUES
('CIVILIZATION_BARBARIAN', 'UNITCLASS_ZEPPELIN', NULL);

 

[Rekk]

Passed. Ice Breaker is now renamed to Traverser with its description allowing those with the promotion to pass mountains and ice.

Traverser is a pretty awkward word. How about something like 'Heavy Duty Equipment"?

 

[TranceBlossom]

Traverser is a pretty awkward word. How about something like 'Heavy Duty Equipment"?

That's not worse??

 

[Rekk]

That's not worse??

Traverser is not really a noun used by English speakers. Heavy-duty Equipment and Heavy Equipment are. Granted, icebreakers generally aren't considered such.

 

[pineappledan]

Why not call it Engineering Corp? The military engineers are often the ones sent out to do mountain/northern development.

 

[Rekk]

Why not call it Engineering Corp? The military engineers are often the ones sent out to do mountain/northern development.

That seems decent, would that match with archaeologists as well? (They have this promotion to access dig sites hidden behind ice).

 

[pineappledan]

That seems decent, would that match with archaeologists as well? (They have this promotion to access dig sites hidden behind ice).

meh. You could say they have an escort if your headcanon requires it.

 

[Gazebo]

meh. You could say they have an escort if your headcanon requires it.

I prefer: