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Poll: what new European civs would you like to see in the future of Civ franchise?

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by Krajzen, Aug 21, 2019.

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Choose 5 new European civs you'd like to see most

  1. Italy in united form

    43 vote(s)
    37.7%
  2. Moors/Andalusia/Cordoba

    35 vote(s)
    30.7%
  3. Charlemagne's Frankish/Carolingian Empire

    22 vote(s)
    19.3%
  4. Florence, Genoa or some other individual Italian state

    25 vote(s)
    21.9%
  5. Ireland

    36 vote(s)
    31.6%
  6. Belgium/Flanders

    8 vote(s)
    7.0%
  7. Switzerland

    15 vote(s)
    13.2%
  8. Normans

    20 vote(s)
    17.5%
  9. Goths (or other Migration Era people)

    33 vote(s)
    28.9%
  10. Bohemia (Czechs)

    29 vote(s)
    25.4%
  11. Lithuania

    16 vote(s)
    14.0%
  12. Kievan Rus (separately from Russia)

    15 vote(s)
    13.2%
  13. Cossack Ukraine

    7 vote(s)
    6.1%
  14. Romania

    21 vote(s)
    18.4%
  15. Bulgarian Empire

    29 vote(s)
    25.4%
  16. Serbia

    12 vote(s)
    10.5%
  17. Armenia (culturally 'European')

    33 vote(s)
    28.9%
  18. Croatia

    2 vote(s)
    1.8%
  19. Finland

    16 vote(s)
    14.0%
  20. Ancient Germania

    4 vote(s)
    3.5%
  21. Gauls

    26 vote(s)
    22.8%
  22. Burgundy

    5 vote(s)
    4.4%
  23. Wales

    10 vote(s)
    8.8%
  24. Albania (Skanderbeg)

    3 vote(s)
    2.6%
  25. Yugoslavia (Tito)

    6 vote(s)
    5.3%
  26. Individual German state (Prussia, Saxony, Bavaria, Teutons etc)

    5 vote(s)
    4.4%
  27. Papal State

    12 vote(s)
    10.5%
  28. 'Slavs' (Samo, Great Moravia, Pagan Slavs etc)

    4 vote(s)
    3.5%
  29. Cumans/Pechenegs/Sarmatians/Khazars etc

    3 vote(s)
    2.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Patine

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    When did they appear in Age of Empires? I've been playing that series since Age of Empires I dropped in the late '90's, and I use the same user name on all the Age of Empires Heaven forums. I have never seen a Cuman/Kipchak civ. Where are they hiding?
     
  2. Lord Lakely

    Lord Lakely Unintentionally a feminist.

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    the Cumans appeared in the new AoE2 Definitive Edition (where they were a ludicrously broken civ until the recent nerf and now solidly rank among the S-tier civs.).

    Not sure if they would fit Civ 6 though. I would love a nomadic central asian civ that isn't the Mongols, but we already have the Scythians, and I like the idea of Tatars and Timurids/Uzbeks more.
     
  3. Patine

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    Was the Definitive Edition a fanmade mod like Realms, Age of Chivalry, Tsars and Salesman, Borderland Empires, Portuguese Civ Mod, etc., or something more semi-official for paid download and install? I've heard it mentioned, now that you bring it up, but always though something else was being referred to (the original HD revived version, basically).
     
  4. Lord Lakely

    Lord Lakely Unintentionally a feminist.

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    Yes and no. AoE2 DE is a derivative of Forgotten Empires, which was a fan-made mod, but is very much a proper expansion in its own right now. HD is the collection of all the small modifications and expansion packs they made (I'm forgetting the name of the company, but they're Microsoft supported and are currently working on Age of Empires 4)

    I did misspeak in my earlier post though. The Cumans were added in the High Definition upgrade, which updated the graphics, made several QoL changes (such as permanent farm reseeding) and added four new Civs (Cumans, Bulgarians, Lithuanians and Tatars (who have a Tamarlane-centric campaign)).

    AoE2 HD's civs aren't necessarily something firaxis should go by when designing their civs. The Vietnamese (who I believe are a slam dunk for a third XPac) are playable in DE and HD and they're arguably the most vanilla AoE civ ever.
     
  5. TyrannusRex

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    Definitive Edition is basically an entirely new game. It's a complete remaster of AoE2, with all the expansion content created by Forgotten Empires, plus four new civs and more campaigns/content, one of which is the Cumans. Been playing it since launch and it's A+.
     
  6. Haig

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    What could be a unique unit for:
    Armenia
    Romania
    Bulgaria

    Would love to see some of them in civ but are there any good ideas for distinctive units?
     
  7. Laurana Kanan

    Laurana Kanan Don’t underestimate who I am.

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    Respectively from modded Civs-
    Ayrudzi Heavy Cavalry
    Calarasi Light Cavalry
    Cumen Ranged Cavalry
     
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  8. Krajzen

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    Can't name anyone from menory but
    Armenia has had a ton of them, with their own fancy names and so on. Bułgaria I don't recall but I am sure you could provide few of them based on their centuries of major powerhouse which was mortal danger to Byzantium. Romania had just enough crazy military victories between 14th and 17th centuries to warrant few unique units.
     
  9. ElectRonin

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    I'm not sure about the Cuman cavalry. They were very close and influential to the Second Bulgarian Empire, even some of our rulers at the time had at least some Cuman blood, but as a whole they're not really considered "Bulgarian" the way we'd consider special units in Civ. It's like if Byzantium's special unit was a Varangian.

    I'd go with Opalchentzi/Hushove/Hajduti (basically freedom fighters) and here's why:

    - Very iconic. Some of the best Bulgarian literature we have is based on the Russo-Turkish war, and more specifically the Battle of Shipka.
    - Their mechanics can be based at least in part on historic accuracy. Make them have a +5 on hills terrain and fight at full strength even when injured or something.
    - Their appearance can be more memorable than the usual steppe riders. Here's how they could look
     
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  10. Laurana Kanan

    Laurana Kanan Don’t underestimate who I am.

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    Take it up with Merrick. ;)
     
  11. ElectRonin

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    Nah, you don't look a gifted horse in the mouth. Guy's a badass in my book. It's thanks to him we have Simeon in-game, so he has my thanks. :)
     

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