1. Charlemagne should be a 'striding civ' leader. as he can lead France as well as leading Germany, have Paladins as his UU and can be recruited in both countries whenever he leads. 2. Venice at its peak. including their posessions in Greece 3. Cossacks Ukraine. I've already made a thread about ideas. 4. Serbians under leadership of Tito 5. Bohemians as Jan Hus rebellion. (And their will to resist Germanic assimilations both by Prussians and Austrians) for those who vote for Italy as different civ. Do modern italy being so distict to the Romans regardless of that they're seated in Rome. other games treated Italy as Successor of Rome. Empire Earth even gave a modern era Romans italian units (Arditi or Bers.. thing I'm not sure), and in civ6, Romans get Italian names in Industrial Era onwards rather than original Latins. Actually i'd like to see Austria in this list.