Possible Civ6 Leaders for Civs who have appeared before

[Guandao]

The point of this thread is come up with a list of possible Civ6 leaders for Civs who have appeared in the Civilization franchise before but did not make the base game lineup. Any help is much appreciated


Assyria
Ashurbanipal
Ashur-dan II
Ashurnasirpal II
Esarhaddon
Sargon II
Sennacherib
Shalmaneser III
Shammuramat
Shamshi-Adad
Tiglath-Pileser I
Tiglath-Pileser III


Austria
Albert III
Albert V
Ferdinand I
Ferdinand III
Francis II
Franz Joseph I
Frederick III
Friedrich Ferdinand von Beust
Joseph II
Karl Renner
Klemens von Metternich
Leopold I Holy Roman Emperor
Leopold III
Leopold V
Leopold VI
Maria Theresa
Matthias
Maximilian I
Rudolf I
Rudolf IV

Babylon
Burna-Buriash II
Hammurabi
Kurigalzu I
Nabopolassar
Nazi-Maruttash (name might be an issue, )
Nebuchadnezzar I
Nebuchadnezzar II
Sargon of Akkad

Byzantines
Alexios I Komnenos
Basil I
Basil II
Constantine V
Heraclius
Irene of Athens
John I Tzimiskes
John II Komnenos
John III Doukas Vatatzes
Justinian I
Leo III the Isaurian
Leo VI
Manuel I Komnenos
Maurice
Michael III
Michael VIII Palaiologos
Nikephoros II Phokas
Theodora
Theodora (11th Century)
Tiberius II Constantine
Zoe

Carthage
Dido
Hamilcar Barca
Hannibal
Hanno the Great
Himilco
Mago I

Celts
Ambiorix
Boudica
Brennus
Brian Boru
Cadwallon ap Cadfan
Caratacus
Cartimandua
Cassivellaunus
Commius
Cunobeline aka Celtic male leader in Civ2
David I
David II
Diarmait mac Mael na mBo
Diviciacus
Dumnorix
Hywel Dda
Indutiomarus
Llywelyn
Lucterius
Maelgwn Gwynedd
Mael Sechnaill mac Maele Ruanaid
Malachy II
Malcolm III
Owain Gwynedd
Rhys ap Gruffydd
Robert the Bruce
Tasgetius
Vercingetorix

Denmark
Christian I
Christian IV
Cnut
Eric of Pomerania
Frederick II
Frederick IV
Frederick V
Harald Bluetooth
Margaret I
Struensee
Sweyn Forkbeard
Sweyn II
Valdemar I
Valdemar II

Ethiopia
Amda Seyon I
Dawit II
Ezana
Fasilides
Gebre Mesqel Lalibela
Haile Selassie
Iyasu I
Kaleb
Menelik II
Susenyos 1
Taytu Betul
Tewodros II
Yekuno Amlak
Zara Yaqob
Zewditu

Hittites
Mursili II
Muwatalli II
Puduhepa
Suppiluliuma I
Telipinu
Tudhaliya IV

Huns
Attila
Balamber
Dengizich
Rugila
Uldin

Incas
Atahualpa
Huayna Capac
Pachacuti
Tupac Amaru
Tupac Amaru II
Tupac Inca Yupanqui
Viracocha

Indonesia
Agung of Mataram
Balaputra
Balitung
Cudamani Warmadewa
Dharmasetu
Dharmawangsa
Gajah Mada
Hayam Wuruk
Iskandar Muda
Ken Arok
Kertanegara
Panangkaran
Pangeran Ratu
Purnawarman
Raden Wijaya
Samaratungga
Shima
Suharto
Sukarno
Tribhuwana

Iroquois
Canaqueese
Canasatego
Cornplanter
Daniel Bread
Great Peacemaker
Guyasuta
Handsome Lake
Hiawatha
Hononwirehdonh
Joseph Brant
Logan
Molly Brant
Red Jacket
Skenandoa
Tanacharison

Khmer
Ang Duong
Ang Mey
Bhavavarman I
Chey Chettha II
Indravarman I
Isanavarman I
Jayadevi
Jayavarman II
Jayavarman IV
Jayavarman VII
Lon Nol
Norodom
Queen Soma
Rajendravarman II
Suryavarman I
Suryavarman II
Udayadityavarman II
Yasovarman I

Korea
Daemusin
Dangun
Dongmyeong of Goguryeo
Geunchogo
Gongmin
Gung Ye
Gwanggaeto
Hyojong
Jangsu
Jeongjo
Jindeok
Jinheung
Jinseong
Jungjong
Micheon
Muryeong
Sejo
Sejong
Seondeok
Seong
Seongdeok
Seonjo
Seongjong
Seongjong of Joseon
Sosurim
Syngman Rhee
Taejo of Goryeo
Taejo of Joseon
Taejong
Yejong
Yeongjo

Mali
Mahmud IV
Musa I
Sakoura Mansa
Sundiata Keita
Uli I

Maya (it's weird how Smoke Jaguar was chosen as the Mayan leader in Civ3, his English wiki page has nothing)
Ha' K'in Xook
Itzam K'an Ahk II
Itzamnaaj B'alam II
Jasaw Chan K'awiil
K'ak' Chan Yopaat
K'ak' Tiliw Chan Yopaat
K'an II
K'inich Ahkal Mo' Nahb III
K'inich Kan Bahlam II
K'inich Popol Hol
K'inich Yo'nal Ahk I
Lady K'abel
Lady Six Sky
Lady Xoc
Pacal
Sak K'uk'
Siyaj K'ak
Uaxaclajuun Ub'aah K'awiil
Yaxun B'alam IV
Yohl Ik'nal
Yuknoom

Mongolia
Altan Khan
Ayurbarwada Buyantu Khan
Batu Khan
Berke
Chagatai Khan
Damdin Sukhbaatar
Dayan Khan
Esen Taishi
Genghis Khan
Ghazan
Guyuk Khan
Hulagu Khan
Khabul Khan
Kublai Khan
Mandukhai
Mongke Khan
Ogedei Khan
Oz Beg Khan
Sorghaghtani Beki
Taisun Khan
Temur Khan
Toghon Temur
Tolui
Toregene Khatun

Morocco
Abd al-Mu'min
Abd al-Rahman
Abu Bakr ibn Umar
Abu al-Hasan Ali ibn Othman
Abu Yusuf Yaqub al-Mansur
Abu Yusuf Yaqub ibn Abd Al-Haqq
Ahmad al-Mansur
Idris I
Ismail ibn Sharif
Mohammed ash-Sheikh
Yusuf ibn Tashfin

Netherlands
Dirk VI
Jacqueline
Frederick Henry
Gerolf of Holland
Johan de Witt
Johan van Oldenbarnevelt
Margaret II
Maurice
Wilhelmina
William I
William I of the Netherlands
William II
William III

Ottomans
Abdulaziz
Abdulmecid I
Ahmed I
Ahmed III
Bayezid II
Ismail Enver Pasha
Mahmud II
Mehmed II
Mehmed IV
Mehmed V
Murad I
Murad III
Murad IV
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk
Orhan
Osman I
Selim I
Sokollu Mehmed Pasha
Suleiman I

Persia
Abbas I
'Adud al-Dawla
Agha Mohammad Khan Qajar
Ardashir I
Artaxerxes II
Artaxerxes III
Azarmidokht
Bahram I
Bahram II
Boran
Cambyses II
Cyaxares
Cyrus II
Darius I
Ghazan
Ghiyath al-Din Muhammad
Ismail I
Isma'il ibn Ahmad
Karim Khan
Khosrow I
Khosrow II
Mithridates I
Mithridates II
Muhammad of Ghor
Musa
Nader Shah
Naser al-Din Shah Qajar
Nasr II
Shapur I
Shapur II
Tahmasp I
Vologases I
Xerxes I
Ya'qub ibn al Layth al-Saffar

Polynesia
Aleamotu'a
George Tupou I
Hone Heke
Hongi Hika
Kalakaua
Kamehameha I
Kamehameha II
Kamehameha III
Kamehameha IV
Kamehameha V
Liliuokalani
Malietoa Laupepa
Malietoa Talavou Tonumaipe'a
Pomare I
Pomare IV
Purea
Salamasina
Salote Tupou III
Te Rauparaha
Tu'i-ta-tui
Tuku'aho

 

[Krajzen]

You forgot Maya

Ethiopia - Menelik II
Indonesia - Tribhuwana
Mongolia - Kubilai Khan, Ogedei Khan
Netherlands - Wilhelmina
Persia - Shapur, Abbas the Great, Nader Shah
Portugal - Henrique Navigator
Sweden - Gustav Vasa, Carolus XII

 

[Krajzen]

Christina is ridiculous choice for Sweden, did you read her biography? At the age of 28 she ran away from being a queen because she felt bored, and went on a fun tour across Europe. Never returned. That's the last leader I'd choose to represent a country im this game

Sweden - Gustav I Vasa and Charles XI are very legit choices

 

[SMcM]

I'd add:

Morroco- Yusuf ibn Tashfin
Netherlands- William III (also king of England)
Sweden- Gustav Vasa
Iroquois- Logan

I personally couldn't agree that Kublai Khan makes sense to lead to Mongols; his reign as khagan saw the collpase of the Mongol empire, and he finished the conquest of China and moved his capital there. We already have China in the game. And yes, I would agree that Christina would make no sense as a leader for Sweden. Zewditu would be a weird choice also; Haille Sellassie was the de facto ruler for much of here reign as regent, and he would later go on to rule far longer as emperor himself.

 

[Guandao]

Portugal
Afonso I
Denis
Edward
Henrique
John I
John II
John III
John IV
John V
John VI
Manuel I
Maria I
Maria II
Marquis of Pombal
Sancho I
Sebastian

Shoshone
Bear Hunter
Cameahwait
Pocatello
Sacagawea
Washakie

Siam
Borommakot
Borommarachathirat II
Borommatrailokkanat
Chairachathirat
Chulalongkorn
Ekathotsarot
Intharacha
Khuang Aphaiwong
Lithai
Mangrai
Mongkut
Narai
Naresuan
Phetracha
Phraya Phahonphonphayuhasena
Plaek Phibunsongkhram
Prasat Thong
Pridi Banomyong
Rama I
Rama II
Rama III
Ramathibodi II
Ram Khamhaeng
Sarit Thanarat
Seni Pramoj
Songtham
Sri Indraditya
Suriyothai
Taksin
Uthong

Sioux
American Horse
Blue Horse
Crazy Horse
Flying Hawk
Gall
Kill Eagle
Little Crow
Luther Standing Bear
Old Chief Smoke
Red Cloud
Red Shirt
Running Antelope
Sitting Bull
Spotted Tail
Touch the Clouds
Young Man Afraid of His Horses

Songhai
Askia
Askia Daoud
Askia Mohammad Benkan
Sonni Ali

Sweden
Axel Oxenstierna
Charles X Gustav
Charles XI
Charles XII
Charles XIV John
Christina
Eric the Victorious
Gustav I
Gustav III
Gustavus Adolphus
Oscar II
Stenkil
Ulrika Eleonora

Venice
Alvise Contarini
Andrea Gritti
Domenico I Contarini
Domenico Morosini
Domenico Selvo
Enrico Dandolo
Francesco Dandolo
Francesco Erizzo
Giovanni Bembo
Pietro II Orseolo

Zulus
Cetshwayo kaMpande
Shaka


About Christina and Zewditu, they are probably not suitable leaders for Sweden and Ethiopia. But considering this is Firaxis, there is always a chance they will be picked. We already had Maria the Mad as leader of Portugal. And some disliked the choice of Catherine de Medici for France.

 

[Lord of War N02]

Some leaders should be added
Austria: Franz Joseph, Metternich, Karl Renner, Rudolf IV(Duke of Austria), Leopoldo V(Duke of Austria), Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor, Francis II, Holy Roman Emperor, Joseph II, Holy Roman Emperor
Byzantine: Heraclius, Alexios Komnenos, Manuel Komnenos, Michael VIII Palaiologos
Carthage: Hanno the Great
Egypt: Narmer, Rameses II, Nerfiti
Korea: Rhee Syungman, Taejo of Goryeo, Jumong, Dangun, Geunchogo, Hyeonjong, Yeongjo of Joseon, Choe Chung-heon
Polynesia: Pomare I of Tahiti, Kalakaua, Hotu Mata, Malietoa Savea, ʻAhoʻeitu, Salamasina
Siam: Narai, Taksin, Phibunsongkhram, Borommatrailokkanat, Pridi Banomyong

 

[AliasMittens]

Babylon
- Sargon of Akkad. I've seen some people suggest Akkad as a new Civ for the series, but I honestly think Sargon would be better as an alternate leader for a Babylonian Civ, alongside Hammurabi or Nebby. Why? Because the Akkadian Empire laid the foundations on which the Babylonian Empires modeled themselves, and the "Babylonian" language and culture is a direct continuation of the Akkadian tradition.
- Kurigalzu I. Because the Kassite Dynasty doesn't get nearly enough love.

Byzantines
- Alexios I Komnenos. Interesting and overlooked.

Carthage
- Hamilcar Barca. Conqueror of Spain. For someone who isn't Hannibal or Dido.

Ethiopia
- Taytu Betul. If Catherine de' Medici is in, the fact that Taytu was merely empress consort shouldn't matter. She had no problem putting the Italians in their place.

Hittites
- Puduhepa. Equal co-ruler to her husband, Hattusili III, she corresponded with other Near Eastern monarchs on equal terms and strove to reform the Hittite religious establishment.

Incas
- Túpac Amaru II. For a twist on the Incas! He could portray something closer to modern Peru.

Mali
- Sundiata Keita. Musa has legends, but Sundiata has an epic poem.

Maya
- Siyaj K'ak'. The founder of the dynasty in Yax Mutal [Tikal] whose rivalry with the Kaanul kingdom would define Classic Maya history. Also one of the only chances to put a Teotihuacano in the game.

Siam
- Narai. His outward looking, cosmopolitan reign saw extensive contact between Ayutthaya and the West, as well as Persia.
- Mongkut or Chulalongkorn, to represent something closer to modern Thailand - both modernizers and protectors against colonialism. Also both part of the ruling Chakri Dynasty, so I'm not sure how that would sit with Thailand's lèse-majesté laws...

 

[UnknownHuman]

Siam
- Rama I - He founded the Chakri dynasty and allowed Siam to reach a new height of power never seen since the sixteenth century. He would also give a look into a more modern Siam.

Morocco
- Ismail Ibn Sharif - An Alaouite ruler known for his skill as a diplomat, as a military leader, and for beginning the construction of great projects (palaces, basin, stable &#8230.

Portugal
- John V - He’s known as the Magnanimous and the Portuguese Sun King, his reign saw the rise of the prestige of Portugal and its monarchy, which had been in decline among European courts, to a new level of prosperity and wealth.

Ethiopia
- Amda Seyon I - He consolidated the strength of the Solomonic dynasty and expended the Ethiopian territory in the region which will be maintained for centuries after his death. He also allowed his empire to flourish through trade and culture.

Persia
- Ardashir I - He founded the Sasanian Empire and participated in the resurgence of Persia.

 

[SMcM]

For Portugal I'd suggest João III and Manuel I. Also, another Dutch leader I would suggest would be Johan de Witt.

 

[Lord Lakely]

Arabia - Al-Mansur, Al-Muizz
Iroquois - Peacemaker
Mongolia - Mandukhai
Ottomans - Kemal Atatürk
Persia - Xerxes, Sheherazade
Shoshone - Sacagawea

 

[Guandao]

Arabia - Al-Mansur, Al-Muizz
Iroquois - Peacemaker
Mongolia - Mandukhai
Ottomans - Kemal Atatürk
Persia - Xerxes, Sheherazade
Shoshone - Sacagawea

Arabia is already in the base game, but I will add those two to my other thread. I'm not sure Scheherazade would be appropriate as a leader for Persia, being legendary.

 

[Lord of War N02]

More suggestion

Indonesia: Sukarno, Suharto, Samaratungga, Dharmasetu, Iskandar Muda
Persia: Tahmasp I, Naser al-Din Shah Qajar, Isma'il ibn Ahmad, Agha Mohammad Khan Qajar,
Portugal: Salazar, Teófilo Braga, John IV, Maria II, Denis I, Viriatus
Khmer: Yasovarman I, Lon Nol, Indravarman I, Jayavarman II, Pol Pot
Mongolia: Altan Khan, Sükhbaatar, Batu Khan, Berke Khan, Esen Taishi(leader of Oirat), Khabul Khan
Ottoman: Abdulmecid I, Selim I, Sokollu Mehmed Pasha, Murad IV, Ismail Enver Pasha(he was de facto ruler during WW1)

 

[Zaarin]

Byzantines
- Alexios I Komnenos. Interesting and overlooked.

Carthage
- Hamilcar Barca. Conqueror of Spain. For someone who isn't Hannibal or Dido.

Yes please, to both.

Arabia - Al-Mansur, Al-Muizz
Iroquois - Peacemaker
Mongolia - Mandukhai
Ottomans - Kemal Atatürk
Persia - Xerxes, Sheherazade
Shoshone - Sacagawea

Peacemaker? Sheherazade? Seriously? Also, if we're bringing in Sacagawea to lead the Shoshone, should Meriwether Lewis lead America? Hernando de Soto lead Spain? Sacagawea was an incredible woman, but she was a translator and scout, not a leader.

 

[Lord Lakely]

You know Ed is just itching to add Sacagawea though. His love for left-field female leader picks is pretty apparent ("ZOMG GORGO <3 CdM <3 TOMYRIS <3 YASS QUEENS <3" -- Ed Beach) (place your bets now whether he has a Lena Heady poster hanging above his bed. I call 9-1 odds he has drawn hearts around it with a neon pink marker.)

Besides, given that no Native American Civs are in the game just yet, we might see a Shoshone return under Sacagawea. Not MY personal pick per se, but Sacagawea is A Known Figure, meaning she's marketable enough for dlc.

As for your other two complaints, I don't really mind legendary leaders in Civ, which, if you're being completely honest, is nothing but a history simulator, so the point of historical accuracy is kind of moot in my opinion. If Gilgamesh, Hiawatha, and Ragnar Lodbrok are 'Valid Choices', then why not? It's easy enough to come up with a few nice specials for Sheherazade/Deganawida, which could make the game really FUN to play. ^_^

 

[Liufeng]

Those who propose about portuguese leaders, you can take out some choices that no sane portuguese would ever pick : Maria I (I think it has been enough discussed to know why), Viriatus (wouldn't make any sense : he's about as portuguese as having Sitting Bull leading America), Henry the Navigator (he barely governed the city of Tomar, let alone the kingdom ...), Teofilo Braga (I really like the man, despite his misogynic views, but he was not president even for a year, and did very little. He's more famous as a writer than a president), Antonio Salazar (For God sake don't ever propose him so that Firaxis never has the idea. I don't want my country represented by a sick sociopath dictator that caused the death of many ... Would you Franco to lead Spain, Mussolini for Italy or Hitler for Germany ? No, of course. Well the same goes for Portugal : no Salazar ever).
And in my personnal opinion, I really don't want John III. He basically just happened to reign at a time Portugal was prosperous, but the man itself is kind of a failure, gladly starting at full force the inquisition that his predecessors tried to evade as much as they could, and the portuguese empire started to decline Under his rule ...
Marquis of Pombal, Afonso I, John I, John II, John IV, John V or Manuel I are all excellent choices on the other hand.

 

[Zaarin]

You know Ed is just itching to add Sacagawea though. His love for left-field female leader picks is pretty apparent ("ZOMG GORGO <3 CdM <3 TOMYRIS <3 YASS QUEENS <3" -- Ed Beach) (place your bets now whether he has a Lena Heady poster hanging above his bed. I call 9-1 odds he has drawn hearts around it with a neon pink marker.)

Besides, given that no Native American Civs are in the game just yet, we might see a Shoshone return under Sacagawea. Not MY personal pick per se, but Sacagawea is A Known Figure, meaning she's marketable enough for dlc.

As for your other two complaints, I don't really mind legendary leaders in Civ, which, if you're being completely honest, is nothing but a history simulator, so the point of historical accuracy is kind of moot in my opinion. If Gilgamesh, Hiawatha, and Ragnar Lodbrok are 'Valid Choices', then why not? It's easy enough to come up with a few nice specials for Sheherazade/Deganawida, which could make the game really FUN to play. ^_^

Sheherazade is in a completely different category than Gilgamesh and Hiawatha. Gilgamesh 100% existed; Hiawatha and Dido probably existed. Peacemaker is less certain. Sheherazade is a fictional character; might as well have Lady Liberty lead America. I don't have a problem with legendary leaders who existed (though I'd still prefer historically attested ones when possible *glares at Dido*), but I'd rather not dabble in fictional leaders--leave that to mods.

 

[Guandao]

Those who propose about portuguese leaders, you can take out some choices that no sane portuguese would ever pick : Maria I (I think it has been enough discussed to know why), Viriatus (wouldn't make any sense : he's about as portuguese as having Sitting Bull leading America), Henry the Navigator (he barely governed the city of Tomar, let alone the kingdom ...), Teofilo Braga (I really like the man, despite his misogynic views, but he was not president even for a year, and did very little. He's more famous as a writer than a president), Antonio Salazar (For God sake don't ever propose him so that Firaxis never has the idea. I don't want my country represented by a sick sociopath dictator that caused the death of many ... Would you Franco to lead Spain, Mussolini for Italy or Hitler for Germany ? No, of course. Well the same goes for Portugal : no Salazar ever).
And in my personnal opinion, I really don't want John III. He basically just happened to reign at a time Portugal was prosperous, but the man itself is kind of a failure, gladly starting at full force the inquisition that his predecessors tried to evade as much as they could, and the portuguese empire started to decline Under his rule ...
Marquis of Pombal, Afonso I, John I, John II, John IV, John V or Manuel I are all excellent choices on the other hand.

Ok, I will remove Teofilo Braga and Salazar from the list, but not Henry the Navigator and Maria I, as well as John III, it doesn't necessarily have to be the best choices, and Firaxis has used Henry the Navigator and Maria before.

 

[Guandao]

Ok, I added some more leaders after browsing through wikipedia. They are not always the greatest leaders of their civs, but were either notable or interesting in my opinion.

I would not mind Firaxis picking leaders that have never appeared in Civ before for some of these civs if they are added to the game.

 

[SMcM]

Maya (it's weird how Smoke Jaguar was chosen as the Mayan leader in Civ3, his English wiki page has nothing)

Yeah, and he doesn't even have a Spanish Wikipedia page! His successor Uaxaclajuun Ub'aah K'awiil seems to have a lot more known about him. I suppose he was just chosen because he has a cool nickname.

I'd love to see how this guy would look in the game:

Spoiler :

 

[Lord of War N02]

Here more leaders for suggestion for each civs
Austria:
Ferdinand III
Mathias
Friedrich Ferdinand von Beust

Siam:
Sri Indraditya
Seni Pramoj
Pridi Banomyomg
Khuang Aphaiwong
Songtham
Phetracha
Borommakot
Chairachathirat
Lithai
Phraya Phahonphonphayuhasena
Sarit Thanarat
Ramathibodi II
Borommaracha II
Suriyothai
Rameshan
Intharacha

Netherland:
Johan van Oldenbarnevelt
William I of Netherlands(King)
William II(King)
William III(King)
Frederick Henry
Gerolf of Holland
Dirk VI

Khmer:
Queen Soma
Chey Chetta II
Javayarman IV
Suryavarman I
Rajendravarman II
Udayadityavarman II