Prebuild for Smith's Trading Company!!!

[Civanator]

From the looks of the research poll we will most likely be getting economics next, and it will only take 7 turns!!! That means we'll ahve it before the TC ends, so we need a prebuild for Smith's!! This is one of the most invaluable wonders in the game!

 

[Ginger_Ale]

I agree, this is one of the most useful wonders - it saves lots of gold per turn!! I would suggest building a pre-build palace in our city with the highest shields per turn (if it's our capital, find something else that will take 8 turns or more to complete).

 

[Black_Hole]

or we could use smiths as a prebuild for corpenicus's observatory :devil2:

 

[Zarn]

I want at leat two of three wonders under our belt. They are Sistine's, Corpernicus', and Smith's. Later I want Newton's. That's right. I'm greedy. Let's build these wonders and forget war for now.

 

[Chieftess]

Let's try a new challenge -- Survive without wonders!

 

[Civanator]

Or we can do that.... But I doubt it.

 

[Strider]

Fanatikku: 27 shields (1 being lost to corruption)
Furuyama: 4 shields (0 being lost to corruption)
Immo: 18 shields (one being lost to corruption)
Doomsville: 6 shields (3 being lost to corruption)
Epolenep: 14 sheilds (4 being lost to corruption)
Zojoji: 23 shields (3 being lost to corruption)
Odawara: 30 shields (8 being lost to corruption)
Shorin-Ryu: 34 shields (7 being lost to corrption)
Balder's Gate: 8 sheilds (6 being lost to corruption)
Regent Town: 22 shields (10 being lost to corruption)
Ravenna: 6 shields (5 being lost to corruption)
Corrino: 19 shields (6 being lost to corruption)
Nihilon: 6 shields (1 being lost to corruption)
Osgiliath: 17 shields (5 being lost to corruption)
En'Gha: 17 shields (2 being lost to corruption)
Hispalis: 4 shields (3 being lost to corruption)
Sto'vo'kor: 9 shields (2 being lost to corruption)
Windurst: 9 shields (3 being lost to corruption)
Pete: 11 shields (8 being lost to corruption)
Manchai: 9 shields (5 being lost to corruption)
Bentropolis: 9 shields (6 being lost to corruption)
Gerunshi: 10 shields (6 being lost to corruption)
Viroconium: 4 shields (3 being lost to corruption)
TDB: 6 shields (2 being lost to corruption)
TBN2: 4 shields (1 being lost to corruption)
Rome: 11 shields (9 being lost to corruption)

Top 5 Production cities:
Shorin-Ryu with 27 Shields
Fanatikku with 26 shields
Odawara with 22 shields
Immo with 17 shields
Corino with 13 shields

 

[Civanator]

I think Shorin-Ryu wins. Now we just need something as a prebuild. Sistine Chapel anyone?

 

[Strider]

I think Shorin-Ryu wins. Now we just need something as a prebuild. Sistine Chapel anyone?

The total production is not the only thing that might effect it, although it is the most important.

Taking the top five production cities:

Shorin-Ryu
27 Shields
Grows in 18 turns
Currently building a Samurai (has spent 0 shields on it)
Will not riot soon

Fanatikku
26 shields
Grows in 1 turn
Currently building Samurai (has spent 26 shields on it)
May riot soon

Odawara
22 shields
Grows in 10 turns
Currently building Samurai (has spent 0 shields on it)
Will not riot soon

Immo
17 shields
Grows in 8 turns
Currently building Samurai (has spent 45 shields on it)
Will not riot soon

Corino
13 shields
Grows in 38 turns
Currently building Cathedral (has spent 52 shields on it)
Will not riot soon

 

[KCCrusader]

shorin ryu should prebuild a palace.

 

[Ginger_Ale]

What size are Shorin Ryu and Fanatikku at? I would say Fanatikku now: it already has one turn's worth of production into a project, and it'll grow in 1 turn, meaning it will go over 26 shields (most likely) - and it has less corruption for when it does grow.

 

[Strider]

Well comparing Shorin Ryu and Fanatikku in total time:

Smiths Trading Center costs 600 shields.

Shorin-Ryu:
600/27=22.22 turns (So average completion in 23 turns)

Fanatikku:
600-26= 574
574/26= 22. 07 (Or an average completion of 23 turns)

 

[Civanator]

I go for Fanatikku because it is about to grow which means extra shields.

 

[Strider]

I go for Fanatikku because it is about to grow which means extra shields.

Actually, the only open tiles are 3 jungle tiles and 2 (unworked) grassland. So we will receive no shield bonus untill one of the tiles are worked.

Edit: Sorry, but it seems like you just can't add enough information.

 

[Civman2004]

Prebuild Sistine in Fanatiku and Palace in Shorin-Ryu, IMO. Change Sistine to Smiths and Palace to Sistine when we get Economics

 

[RegentMan]

That seems like a good idea, Civman.

 

[DaveShack]

There is a tradeoff on getting multiple prebuilds going -- on the downside nothing to cascade to if we lose a race, on the upside we can just cycle through all of the remaining important wonders that way. Just don't fall behind on units so far that we become weak to anyone...

 

[invy]

I second 2 prebuilds. Middle age is filled with important wonders and we're the most productive civilization in the world. We can build 2 wonders in Fanatikku and Shorin-Ryu. Our army is already large and there are cities like Odawara and Zojoji that can produce Samurai if needed.

 

[Gregski]

I support both prebuilds. If we can get both wonders built, I recommend that Fanatikku gets the Chapel, as it has higher culture and we need to push the city up in the top 5.

One afterthought / question:
We will most likely win the Smith race, but what if we lose the Chapel? What contingency plans / alternate wonders are we building? Bach's is the closest, maybe that. Any suggestions?

 

[Rik Meleet]

As all citizens (ought to) know I'm not in favor of Wonder Building this DG. However, as Governor of Zarnia (in which Fanatikku is located), I will include a Wonder (-prebuild) if a poll says that that is what the citizens want.