Predicted system requirements

[civ_king]

Mercade that would be brilliant, remove the eye candy, but leave the framework allowing you to increase graphics as space becomes available

 

[D712]

I watched a video online of the GDC talk Firaxis gave about how efficient their new graphics coding/engine was and though they didn't commit to it, they did make a big deal of how they wanted to (and would) reach all the customers who'd want to play in transit and other such situations where they only had a fairly low powered machine with integrated graphics...
The stuff they indicated would have to be deactivated were primarily water effects/animations, idle animations and depth fog.
I was holding off pre-ordering until I watched this talk.... as I said, they didn't commit to making it run on integrated graphics, but that was the punchline of the second half of the hour long talk.

Can you post a link to this video? I would really like to watch it. Because every time someone posts about requirements someone (me) brings up the integrated cards and they always say that they REALLY want to get this on integrated cards.

 

[D712]

I watched a video online of the GDC talk Firaxis gave about how efficient their new graphics coding/engine was and though they didn't commit to it, they did make a big deal of how they wanted to (and would) reach all the customers who'd want to play in transit and other such situations where they only had a fairly low powered machine with integrated graphics...
The stuff they indicated would have to be deactivated were primarily water effects/animations, idle animations and depth fog.
Though I have a better laptop than with integrated graphics, it is a few years old and I was holding off pre-ordering until I watched this talk.... as I said, they didn't commit to making it run on integrated graphics, but that was the punchline of the second half of the hour long talk, so I think they've got to feel fairly confident about delivering.

Excuse my previous post. But could you link this video your talking about? I would like to see it. And I dont know what your talking about with the integrated graphics card because whenever they talk about specs on here the integrated card comes up (me) and they always bring up how they Civ 5 people say that they ,ade it so integrated cards could play. (like in civ 4)

 

[Thyrwyn]

AD712: check out this thread. The link to GDC is in there.

 

[D712]

AD712: check out this thread. The link to GDC is in there.

Thank you SOOOOOO much! This makes me feel much better about if my machine will run!

EDIT: They yalk about how to make different stuff work (i.e. integrated graphics cards) do they mean they already fixed them in civ 5 or we have to do it ourselves?

 

[SG-17]

Can Civ4 be played without a dedicated graphics card? I haven't been without one in at least 5 years, even on my laptops. (An aside: It's very easy to get high performance laptops for cheap. I got a P-7811 for $800 refurbished on eBay. Been going strong for 3 years now).

I run Civ IV on my laptop with integrated graphics from last year at full (or almost full) settings.


Hopefully I won't need a new computer for Civ V.

 

[civ_king]

I run Civ IV on my laptop with integrated graphics from last year at full (or almost full) settings.


Hopefully I won't need a new computer for Civ V.

just goes to show how much technology improves

 

[YoHo]

Hmm, my AMD X2 is a bit under powered for those stated requirements, (4200+)
But I'm disinclined to spend ANY money on a new one when I plan to upgrade computers in the next 6-8 months.

 

[civ_king]

What socket are you using?

 

[Shurdus]

Hard to say what will be best in a few months, once you are planning to buy a new computer ask again and people will be able to help you. Prices will have developed by then as well, and the good options for now need not be the best in januari.

 

[PromeZeus]

So, what about this kind of system:

i5-430m
Hd 5650
5400RMP HDD
4 GB memory

Think that would be enough for playing on "high"?

 

[Shurdus]

So, what about this kind of system:

i5-430m
Hd 5650
5400RMP HDD
4 GB memory

Think that would be enough for playing on "high"?

Hard to tell without running the game. I am sure it will, but I do not know how choppy it will be. Some people want 100% smooth gameplay, others figure sionce it is a TBS they require less FPS to be happy.

It might.

 

[V. Soma]

So, what about this kind of system:

i5-430m
Hd 5650
5400RMP HDD
4 GB memory

Think that would be enough for playing on "high"?

My bet is: yes
Not sure about huge maps, though, but again, my bet is: yes

 

[PieceOfMind]

For larger maps and late-game gameplay, the main things that will count will be RAM and CPU. In PromZeus' system I suspect the processor would be the first thing to bottleneck in such situations, but whether it does or not depends on how the game and engine is programmed. Assuming they've fixed memory allocation for civ5, we can hope the game won't be so RAM-demanding as civ4 was notorious for. I'd imagine that most people will be CPU-limited when playing civ5 - something that is different to most modern games which are limited mainly by the graphics card.

I still haven't bothered to upgrade past a dual core cpu yet because there would be little gain other than in very particular applications like video editing and such. I suspect civ5 will be one of the first games (at least that I've played) where a quad core will produce substantially better results than a dual core.

 

[Shurdus]

For larger maps and late-game gameplay, the main things that will count will be RAM and CPU. In PromZeus' system I suspect the processor would be the first thing to bottleneck in such situations, but whether it does or not depends on how the game and engine is programmed. Assuming they've fixed memory allocation for civ5, we can hope the game won't be so RAM-demanding as civ4 was notorious for. I'd imagine that most people will be CPU-limited when playing civ5 - something that is different to most modern games which are limited mainly by the graphics card.

I still haven't bothered to upgrade past a dual core cpu yet because there would be little gain other than in very particular applications like video editing and such. I suspect civ5 will be one of the first games (at least that I've played) where a quad core will produce substantially better results than a dual core.

I have the exact same thing. I have a core2duo E8500 @~3.1Ghz, whis is enough to even run CoD4:MW2 with everything on high and such and get a good framerate, but I suspect civ5 will be more demanding. I am unsure if I should upgrade though. I dislike larger maps because I do not want to work too much in order to win, and conquering the world is more of the same. Also I do not want to play longer games becuase at some point I feel uncertain and then I often start a new game. I like standard maps because they are over faster, maybe in two sittings.

I think my dual core will be fine for standard maps, even if the performance will not be stellar.

 

[PieceOfMind]

Wow what a coincidence. Actually I use an E6750 at the moment which is a couple of years older, but I have an E8500 that I'm ready to install any day now. For gaming, the E8500 is one of the most powerful and cheapest options (because practically no games make more than a token use of anything beyond a second core, and the E8600 was way overpriced), not to mention its a great one to overclock. I'm pretty sure I'll get it to 4GHz without much trouble, but whether I'll bother to do it will depend on whether I find civ5 (if I get it!) becoming limited by CPU (likely, IMO).

Out of curiosity, what graphics card are you using?

 

[aMoralAtheist]

With the Strategic View being confirmed, and the fact you can play the game exclusively from the Strategic View, it would be very nice if there was an installation option for Strategic View Only that cut out all the eye candy so you could actually install it on a moderate laptop that doesn't have 6-9 GB of hard drive space available.

If you don't have a large enough HDD for 9 GB, you prolly won't be playing civ 5 at all, because your other specs will prolly be too weak.

 

[YoHo]

What socket are you using?

AM2.

I need to confirm the Motherboard model too, maybe there's a bios upgrade. It's been a few years since I put this together.
It was an emergency upgrade as my P4 MB went Kaput. I believe it was a Gigabyte, but I have to confirm that, with an AMD chipset and a 65nm proc.

I'm also a little light on the video card. Another emergency upgrade from PCGeeks.

6 months of unemployment has put a crimp in my style where PCs are concerned, but I'm working now.

If I'm smart (yeah right) I'll upgrade Video first as that's easy and transferable.

I've got HD space for it, but that is another area that could use an upgrade.

Stupid economy.

 

[Shurdus]

Out of curiosity, what graphics card are you using?

An nvidia 9800GT 512MB. It i a good card, but not to todays standards. It manage sto play newer shooters without hickups though.

 

[Shurdus]

If I'm smart (yeah right) I'll upgrade Video first as that's easy and transferable.

pgrade everything at once. In order to make the most of the later video cards you need a good cpu anyway, so upgrading to a great video card in a crappy pc will not net you that much difference.