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Prefered Government Type?

Discussion in 'Civ3 - General Discussions' started by DukEngnr, Oct 25, 2002.

  1. DukEngnr

    DukEngnr Chieftain

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    If I'm correct here, one of the new aspects of PTW is that each civ has a 'prefered' government type... what exactly does that mean? Is this kind of like a watered down WLTKD more or less that increases production slightly?
     
  2. KaNick

    KaNick Chieftain

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    I think that it applys to the ai programing. Meaning that a civ is more likly to pick that kind of gov than any other.
     
  3. Sultan Bhargash

    Sultan Bhargash Trickster Reincarnated

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    I always wondered if that was the only impact. I noticed that somehow playing as France (prefer republic) that when I switched from Republic to Democracy my science got worse...
     
  4. Catt

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    It already exists in Civ 3. You can see various civs' "preferred" and "shunned" governments in the editor. I'm not sure if it affects an AI's "attitude" towards another AI (as we never get to see that), but I am pretty sure that it doesn;t affect an AI civ's own government choice -- they will generally choice the most efficient peace-time or wartime governement, given the circumstances.

    What it does do is affect the AI's attitude towards the human player -- while you are in a particular AI civ's "shunned" government, that AI's attitude towards you will be biased negatively; while you are in a particular AI civ's "preferred" government, that AI's attitude towards you will be biased positively.

    But governement choice is but one of many factors that seem to affect AI attitudes.
     
  5. Sultan Bhargash

    Sultan Bhargash Trickster Reincarnated

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    Catt- wow I never knew! Just one more factor that makes the AI Furious at me! Thanks!
     
  6. cgannon64

    cgannon64 BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!

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    :eek: I always thought preferred and shunned were optional things in the editor, I didn't know every civ had one automatically! Where can I see them; I'm interested to learn what each civ's preferred and shunned govt is!

    CG
     
  7. warpstorm

    warpstorm Yumbo? Yumbo!

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    Look in the editor.
     
  8. cgannon64

    cgannon64 BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!

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    The editor and I don't get along; we've had bad experiences lately. I prefer our contact to be minimal. ;)

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  9. lincon

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    it mean the goverment that they like the most and that in CIV3 also
     
  10. royfurr

    royfurr "Klotzen, nicht Kleckern"

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    For v. 1.29:

    Civ Favorite Shunned

    Rome Republic Communism


    Egypt Despotism Republic


    Greece Democracy Despotism


    Babylon Monarchy Despotism


    Germany Republic Communism


    Russia Communism Democracy


    China Communism Monarchy


    America Democracy Communism


    Japan Monarchy Republic


    France Republic Monarchy


    India Democracy Despotism


    Persia Monarchy Republic


    Aztecs Despotism Monarchy


    Zululand Despotism Republic


    Iroquois Communism Monarchy


    England Democracy Despotism


    I make no statement as to how "right" these selections are, they are just what is shown for each civ in the editor when you load the civ3mod.bic that comes with patch 1.29.

    sorry in advance if these show up out of alignment in the foum- they are aligned here in the "Post Reply" screen.

    Enjoy. Civ On!
     
  11. Sim_One

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    If you use an AI's shunned gov't it may be likely to stay annoyed or furious. If you use a preferred gov't you are more likely to get gracious attitudes.
     
  12. Napoleon Hitler

    Napoleon Hitler Ruler of Europe

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    You can use [ code ] to make them appear right [/ code ].
     
  13. Napoleon Hitler

    Napoleon Hitler Ruler of Europe

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    Code:
    Civ                     Favorite                      Shunned
    
    Rome                 Republic                    Communism
    
    
    Egypt                 Despotism                 Republic
    
    
    Greece               Democracy                 Despotism
    
    
    Babylon              Monarchy                  Despotism
    
    
    Germany             Republic                    Communism
    
    
    Russia                Communism               Democracy
    
    
    China                  Communism              Monarchy
    
    
    America               Democracy                Communism
    
    
    Japan                  Monarchy                  Republic
    
    
    France                 Republic                    Monarchy
    
    
    India                    Democracy                Despotism
    
    
    Persia                  Monarchy                   Republic
    
    
    Aztecs                  Despotism                 Monarchy
    
    
    Zululand               Despotism                 Republic
    
    
    Iroquois               Communism               Monarchy
    
    
    England               Democracy                 Despotism
    
    Edit: You should space them out in notepad where each character occupies the same space, so that it doesn't waver like this.
     
  14. King_Lewis

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    So it make the game more realistic, USA is democracy and hated Commies. LOL
     
  15. lincon

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    that is right
     
  16. King_Lewis

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    Communism Rocks
     
  17. Silverflame

    Silverflame OBJECTION!

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    I actually find that the shunned and favorite governments dont do much. the AI always seems to be in democracy, even Russia. There should be a more significant difference, but that would probably cause nobody to be Aztecs or Zulu, since they like despotism so much
     
  18. naervod

    naervod My current user title

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    Ya, AI does seem to be in Democracy alot. I prefer Communism so i loook at the armies
    and its like egypt, england, usa, france, greece, aztecs are democracy and iroquois(fav) is communusm
     
  19. cymru_man

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    I always find AI in democracy when I am in communism, but I don't mind that much because it makes them that much easier to destroy. I didn't know the favourite and shunned govts affected their attitude towards you though.
     
  20. cgannon64

    cgannon64 BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!

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    Why is the Iroquois fav government communism? First of all, they never lived to that time, and second of all, weren't they a republic? The Seven Nations, right? One of the first Native American republics...strange. I'd think they would be a republic or a monarchy.

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