I am not sure what happened to my post. Did I cut+paste but screwed up the pasting bit? Cause my post was cut off. Weird. I don't remember what I was going to say but I'll answer your question either way. Hated is a loaded term, (I don't even think I 'hate' him) so I'll assume you mean 'were opposed' to him. The proof are the last elections where the opposition finally unified against him. Despite Venezuela being an illiberal democracy, the opposition were strong and showed very well in the polls, all things considering. No, I merely don't care for the partisan politics you love so much. I defend Luiz often on here because he get's attacked on various statements relating to Latin America because the people attacking him, yourself being an obvious example, just simply do not understand the social-economic realities of Latin America. Relating back to Venezuela, you seem to have this idea that Chavez is some leftist Jesus of sorts. Luiz and myself don't need to share a similar position on the political spectrum to know what he really is. He is a kleptocrat, a kleptocrat who repeatedly betrays many leftist ideals at will. The real left in Venezuela is quite clearly the opposition headed by Henrique Capriles, the opposition candidate to Chavez. I have no idea why you are so fond of Chavez. You of all people should be supportive of Capriles. Which just goes to show how ignorant you and others are of the region. I never claimed such, only reporting what a cousin told me. Personally it doesn't surprise me as Venezuelans are some of the most extreme pyromaniacs I've ever come to encounter. I don't think there was wide-spread celebration, most people anti-Chavez probably have mixed feelings about him dieing like myself, and as people showed earlier, are sympathetic to him losing his battle to a terrible disease. But let me repeat myself, the people opposed to Chavez are not right-wing extremists (those guys have already been expatriated and are living in Florida or Alberta). The people opposed to him are people who largely comprised the middle classes of Venezuela, the people with jobs and steady incomes, the small-business owners, the Jews and the entrepreneurs; alongside the students at universities and the educated in general, from both sides of the political spectrum. I bolded that to ensure you understand it, the educated leftists in the country are opposed to Chavez, because they, like Luiz and myself, see Chavez as the kleptocrat he is and supported an actual leftist politician in Capriles. Wtf? Seriously, are you just attempting to troll anyone you deem to be opposed to a leftist figure you have chosen to idolize or do you really believe that drivel you just posted? All that I said in that post comes from common knowledge of someone not ignorant of the country as well as personal knowledge of having actually lived in the country. I don't expect other leftists on this forum to be as opposed to him as I am, they do not have the same experience with Chavez and Venezuela as I do. Likewise, the only rightist I am echoing is Luiz because although he and I may share different views, we can both call out Chavez on his repeated betrayals to many leftist and socialist ideals he spouts out, his vacuous populism, his tyrannical abuses of power on the media, banks and businesses and his outright thievery of the state's wealth.