Producing units for rfce

tangjinfeng

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I love this mod so much, the immersion it gives me is unique, and even after all these years, I still keep its files. The only regret I have is that only a few civilization units such as Hungarians, Slavs, and Nordics have unique appearances (I always wondered why Hungary? Later I learned that red absinthe comes from Hungary). I'm glad to see someone resurrecting it, I plan to make unique units for all civs, or update some of the older ones.
 
I am ready to replace all UU and Iberian Peninsula first, I spent a long time studying their image
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Three different tercios, representing pikemen, arquebusiers and musketeers
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Hombre de armas
 
Every maceman should have a shield! The mace itself doesn't give enough reach and protection. The shield would be mandatory, imo.
Hi, rfce's superlative "heavy infantry" is marked as "maceman" by default. In fact, he should be a dismounted man at arms. I just want to use him to represent late medieval infantry.
 
Wow great work, any plans on uploading this? I'm not sure what the development status of this mod is, but it should definitely continue to be worked on.
 
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I'm still working, and I've been working on a beautiful but huge Galen sailboat for the past few days... I would like to ask the opinion of the Portuguese, how is this Portugal musketeer? (I remodeled it according to the illustration of the Osprey Society)
 
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I'm still working, and I've been working on a beautiful but huge Galen sailboat for the past few days... I would like to ask the opinion of the Portuguese, how is this Portugal musketeer? (I remodeled it according to the illustration of the Osprey Society)
Looks very piraty, arrghh, but looks good.
On a serious note, idk man
 
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This is a historically existing sailing ship "Apostle Felipe". It was built during Felipe IV as part of the Spain Treasure Fleet, but it also participated as a warship in expeditions to Bahia and the Battle of the Downs. I'm still thinking about shrinking it further
 
1. Just fine. The funny thing is that I was going to bitterly complain that there is tragically no branded Spanish combination: neck and lower face protection in the style of armor with salad + helmet in the style of later morion and cabasset. An even greater sadness was the absence of typical Late Renaissance armor with developed shoulder pads turning into "breastplates". I even found something similar in FFH mods and was going to show you.

And the third sadness was the absence of Armet's helmet. At the same time, a normal hundskugel and a chapelle with chainmail face protection are almost as cool.

2. The new version of Realism Invictis has a pikeman's armor with loincloths/tassels. Oddly enough, the European traveler.

3. At the same time, just in case, the upper part of the "hombre" armor is in principle suitable for heavy pikemen of the 16th century and swordsmen with shields (rondachiers). There are differences, but they are quite «cosmetic».

4. The typical "hombre de armas" armament was quite peculiar, I will try to find it. It's not a fact that you will be interested in this, but it will be interesting to see, I think.
 
This is a historically existing sailing ship "Apostle Felipe".
There's not going to be very good news right now.
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First of all, thanks for the ship. To begin with, so that there is no confusion, in the lists of the Spanish fleet for the battle of the Downs, it still appears as "San Felippe" – and I think I will call it that.

As far as I understand, the ship was drawn from a modern model for assembly from a Spanish company. The problem is that the reliability of such models is often very bad. The main thing is to be recognizable, beautiful and sold.

At the same time, the «San Felipe» is described in sufficient detail," detailed documentation has been preserved from the shipyard that built it. Tonnage - 560 Spanish tons/tonelados (920 kg), 24 guns, not counting the light ones. In total, 42 were scored at Downs, as far as I understand.

This is the largest version of the "standard" galleon, after the defeat of the Great Armada, the Spaniards do not build very large ships for a long time.

There are much bigger problems with the appearance. The British from "Osprey" see it like this. "Spanish Galeon 1530-1690"

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The sails on the mizzen mast are something from an alien, non-three-dimensional space, yes. Вut with regard to the case, the source of inspiration for the «Osprey» was not their own imagination, but a very famous book from 1616, which contains, let's say, drawings – «Livro de Traças de Carpintaria», author Manuel Fernandes. . Including, in fact, the "drawings" of the galleon for 500 Spanish tons.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Manuel_Fernandes_-_Livro_de_Traças_de_Carpintaria_-_500_tonne_galleon.jpg

That is, yes, the stormy fortification in the bow and stern died at that time, the galleons are quite flat. A lot of paintings say about the same thing. That is, at a certain (and favorite by artists) angle, the aft superstructures look quite impressive, but in general everything fits into the framework of the "drawing".

The cargo nao has much larger superstructures. At the same time, Portuguese subjects of the Spanish crown built, among other things, "ultimatum" ships for 1000+ tons. Which are technically very large and well-armed nao (navio), are most often considered navios in Portugal, but the Spaniards in their fleet classify them as galleons. Others may or may not distinguish them from galleons.

For example, both "super galleons" in the Battle of the Downs are exactly such Portuguese non-galleons. One of them is the flagship, the «St. Teresa». We'll need it again. The aft superstructures of these ships are large, pretentious, but moderately elegant. These are the ones.
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And here the Dutch are virtually sinking the "supergaleon" at Gibraltar 1607. The battle in reality was not very successful for them, so the small Spanish flagship turned into another Portuguese monster in propaganda.

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And this is how the playful hands of modern Iberians like to draw the stern of the "Saint Teresa" on the basis of the same images.



The coin is especially "good". In general, this is not the «San Felipe». This is some kind of indeterminate galleon, to which they have attached a monstrous chest of drawers depicting the superstructure of twice as large ships. All sorts of small details are lost against this background, but they are there.

This does not mean in any way that you have wasted your work. Firstly, but not the main ones, very few people will notice this. Secondly, which is very cool, if the model is slightly modified, several "late Renaissance" ships can be made from it at once. But this is an activity for real maniacs , so… I'll probably do it. Somewhere in his old age.:undecide:
 
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Every maceman should have a shield! The mace itself doesn't give enough reach and protection. The shield would be mandatory, imo.
1. These "mace-bearers", actually, do not have a mace.
2. This is true for
a) a one-handed mace. When it comes to a long two-handed weapon, the length protects and, most importantly ... someone else can hold the shield. And you can work from behind the shield-bearer.
b) very questionable armor. These soldiers are wearing armor from the end of the 15th century, which everywhere provoked either the abandonment of shields or their reduction to symbolic sizes. At the same time, in principle, the massive lamellar armor already worked this way. See, for example, the Khitan - as the standard fans of the mace.
 
1. These "mace-bearers", actually, do not have a mace.
2. This is true for
a) a one-handed mace. When it comes to a long two-handed weapon, the length protects and, most importantly ... someone else can hold the shield. And you can work from behind the shield-bearer.
b) very questionable armor. These soldiers are wearing armor from the end of the 15th century, which everywhere provoked either the abandonment of shields or their reduction to symbolic sizes. At the same time, in principle, the massive lamellar armor already worked this way. See, for example, the Khitan - as the standard fans of the mace.
Idk where the mace-bearers are coming from, I also don't know what that is. We talked about maceman. As it is shown in the pick, it's a one handed one. All I said to give them a shield. I believe, 2 handed maces weren't a Battlefield setup. We also don't have context for the time period. 1500++ the shields got symbolic yes. But in-game maceman appears much earlier, further, in 1500 you don't have any melee unit on foot.
So idk what you talk about.
 
1. Just fine. The funny thing is that I was going to bitterly complain that there is tragically no branded Spanish combination: neck and lower face protection in the style of armor with salad + helmet in the style of later morion and cabasset. An even greater sadness was the absence of typical Late Renaissance armor with developed shoulder pads turning into "breastplates". I even found something similar in FFH mods and was going to show you.

And the third sadness was the absence of Armet's helmet. At the same time, a normal hundskugel and a chapelle with chainmail face protection are almost as cool.
I don't understand what you mean, this image of a soldier is based on artistic paintings of the Castilian army from the late 15th to early 16th century. The Paris Military Museum has at least one similar suit of armor made in Aragon
His helmet is actually a Kettle hat that I modeled after an Aragonese Capillo.
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At the same time, the «San Felipe» is described in sufficient detail," detailed documentation has been preserved from the shipyard that built it. Tonnage - 560 Spanish tons/tonelados (920 kg), 24 guns, not counting the light ones. In total, 42 were scored at Downs, as far as I understand.
I don't know, I just simply copied the introduction of the model ship mall, maybe it didn't appear in downs.... But I think they could be something different, the person who made this model set 30 cannons on the ship, and I would look for a red saint flag
 
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