i also agree to shaitan, as we very rarely do.
all points proposed here were brought up and proposed by me. without help of shaitan, without knowing any other discussions about those themes. i got to post a thread about this (for discussion) about 3(!!!) weeks ago. this started a discussion of shaitan and me. as we often posted, the thread were ALWAYS on top. so they should have been seen. and i crosslinked ALL of my proposal thread to the thread were we discussed those things. there were NEVER brought up any cons or additional point to this proposal. the only things cyc brought up was a constant accusation of shaiton for having indirectly implemented his poll procedures. which is definitely NOT the case and a false accusition, since this proposal does not change anyting, just states the situation at the moment more clearly than the constitution is today.
i do NOT see ANY way of getting to a consensus with this discussion, so i will stop it. it goes on my nerves and makes me annoyed, what i dont like.
i will come back to discussion if shaitan and cyc start to discuss their problems with real arguments, not just phrases and accusitions.