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Public Investigation Thread

Discussion in 'Civ3 Demo Game: Citizens' started by disorganizer, May 16, 2002.

  1. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    This thread should be used to state a condition when a public investigation should take place and to collect those accusations and the results of the following discussions and polls. It is not meant to be the discussion-thread for those incidents.

    Investigations should take place if:
    1) The "Veto-Option" of the cabinet was used in the "Turn-Chat"
    2) Someone was devoiced in the "Turn-Chat"
    3) Any action was taken in the "Turn-Chat" which was against the decisions of the citizenry.
    4) Any action against the constitution was taken by anyone.

    The resulting discussion and maybe polls should be taken out of this thread to separate threads, with a link from the coresponding post in here to the thread/poll.

    Edit: Remember, this is not an anti-government thread.
     
  2. Plexus

    Plexus Child-eating squid.

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    Impeach the governor of Ameri!! No, wait don't. Heh Heh. ;)
     
  3. Shaitan

    Shaitan der Besucher

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    This is going to sound strange but I'm reporting myself. The Constitutional Amendment currently in the Council Vote stage does not contain one article that was approved by Citizen Poll. Specifically, the article approved a limiter on the voiced parties in the turn chat. Because there is currently a major discussion and revamping of the turn chat I chose to keep that article out of the Amendment that I submitted for ratification.

    I'd like to make sure that this action is taken on its own merit, is supported and (most importantly) won't bite me in the kiester sometime down the road.
     
  4. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    Official start of public investigation#1:
    Shaitans Constitutional Ammendment

    Please discuss in investigation#1-thread.
     
  5. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    Official Warning Letter:

    Dear Shaitan,

    we had a public investigation of the incident involving the last change of our constitution.
    The Citizenry noticed you handled in best will for our nation, so we do not take any further actions against you.

    Best regards,
    Disorganizer
    Constitutional Protection Agency



    With this letter, the investigation in now officially closed!
    If some citizens see a need for further discussion of this topic, please open a new investigation.
     
  6. chiefpaco

    chiefpaco Chieftain

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    During the May 29 chat, the Science Advisor's queue was not followed. Phoenatica started Theory of Gravity instead of Magnetism in a vote.

    Further details:
    - It was justified by following the wishes of the citizens for the wonders program.
    - Research is listed as debateable in the NSD header.
     
  7. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    Official start of Public Investigation#2:
    May 29 chat - Science queue
    as of chiefpacos request

    Please discuss in investigation#2-thread.
     
  8. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    Official start of Public Investigation#3:
    Term3-Elections - Spice Traders
    as of an anonymous request

    Please discuss in investigation#3-thread.
     
  9. Godinex

    Godinex Chieftain

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    And if We have saints, who will manage the investigation? We need a canonical Department!
     
  10. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    Official close of Public Investigation#2.
    Reason: Lack of public interest.
     
  11. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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  12. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    Official start of Public Investigation#4:
    Impeachment of the president
    as of my request

    This is an urgent issue, so i directly started the citizen poll!
    Please discuss and vote in investigation#4-thread.
     
  13. Zur

    Zur Freaky lozur with spikes

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    During the 2 June turn chat, citizen votes were held for the construction of Newton's University and Shakespeare's Theatre in PDX. The results were 2-3 against and 3-2 for respectively. PDX completed Shakespeare's Theatre instead of Newton's University. An informal citizen poll in the forum was previously held over the choices of Smith's Trading Company, Newton's University and Shakespeare's Theatre. The results were:

    Smith's and Newton's : 9
    Smith's and Shakespeare's : 2
    Shakespeare's and Newton's : 2

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23527

    This may have been a case of not following citizens' wishes in the chat since Shakespeare's Theatre was built before Newton's University (now being built).

    2 June Chatlog

    The discussion is slightly after half-way through the chat.
     
  14. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    Official start of Public Investigation#5:
    June 2nd chat - Citizen poll ignored
    as of Zurs request

    Please discuss in investigation#5-thread.
     
  15. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    Public Invesitgation#5 closed:
    due to withdrawal of Zur and loss of public interest.
     
  16. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    Announcment
    The way these investigations work is clear. So why dont you start doing it yourself? Post the Start of the investigation in here with a link to a new thread, which should start with "Investigation#". You have enough examples for this now.
    I will definitely not spawn any further investigations which are not originated from me.
    Help yourself!
     
  17. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    Public Investigation#4 Close:
    donsig found not guilty

    poll results:
    23% guilty
    58% not guilty
    19% abstain
    26 votes given
     
  18. Cyc

    Cyc Looking for the door...

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    Excellent work putting this together, Dis. I believe the citizenry needed this thread available to them.
     
  19. disorganizer

    disorganizer Chieftain

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    Public Investigation#3 Closed:
    STG found not guilty

    poll results:
    19% guilty
    71% not guilty
    10% abstain
    21 votes given
     
  20. chiefpaco

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