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Putin to return as President next year

I'll admit, I've watched it mostly back in the 1990s. Lots of boobies, and right after night news, as I recall. And now still lots of boobies, I've been told. Though, apparently, not much else. It's as if they settled on "soft porn", apparently. :confused: I guess that cable TV must sell its specialized channels.

Come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if czech television was more "scandalous" than the italian, just from looking at the size of their respective "porn industries".

Czech television is quite O.K. Nothing scandalous realy. Although getting little bit tabloid like sensationalist but thats it. I would think thats becouse czechs seem to be generaly openminded society without much supression and strong prejudices (since the church is not that strong here I assume...) And the same may be the reason for the case of larger porn industry I guess.
 
I'll admit, I've watched it mostly back in the 1990s. Lots of boobies, and right after night news, as I recall. And now still lots of boobies, I've been told. Though, apparently, not much else. It's as if they settled on "soft porn", apparently. :confused: I guess that cable TV must sell its specialized channels.

That's not too bad.

Come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if czech television was more "scandalous" than the italian, just from looking at the size of their respective "porn industries".

Nah, RRTV (the "council for radio and TV broadcasting") wouldn't have it. They freak out when people swear before 10 pm. Although boobies are not really something to be censored, unless they show them in a clearly sexual context. I guess it's the same in most of Europe.
 
Eastern Europeans have the most appalling taste in music

Hehe, so true, man.

This video, however, is not an official promo but indeed a 2003-ish parody, a fairly bizzare one. It has little to do with actual mainstream pop-music (which is still undescribably mediocre) and it doesn't tell us much about the tastes of our general public. Just like, for example, we shouldn't judge the taste of general Western public by mere presence of certain individuals in the media *cough* Justin Bieber, Rebecca Black, etc *cough*.

I quite like traditional East European i.e. Slavic folk-music actually. Some of it is very similiar to Irish, by the way.

 
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Weren't we discussing Vladimir Putin?
 
I quite like traditional East European i.e. Slavic folk-music actually. Some of it is very similiar to Irish, by the way.

Then you might want to check out this band:



Weren't we discussing Vladimir Putin?

Fine, fine.
(*soviet military music starts playing*)

Prime Minister Vladimir Putin Proposes 'Eurasian Union'

MOSCOW — Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has proposed forming a "Eurasian Union" of former Soviet nations, saying the bloc could become a major global player competing for influence with the United States, the European Union and Asia.

Putin, who has lamented the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union as the "greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century," denied that his proposal represents an attempt to rebuild the Soviet empire.

But he said in an article published Tuesday in the daily Izvestia that the new alliance should emerge as "one of the poles of the modern world, serving as an efficient link between Europe and the dynamic Asia-Pacific region."

Putin, who is all but certain to reclaim the presidency in March's election, has been accused of rolling back Russia's post-Soviet democratic achievements during his two terms as president in 2000-2008. He has remained Russia's de-facto leader after shifting into the premier's job due to a term limit, and his protege and successor Dmitry Medvedev proposed last month that Putin run for president.

"There is no talk about rebuilding the USSR in one way or another," Putin said. "It would be naive to try to restore or copy something that belongs to the past, but a close integration based on new values and economic and political foundation is a demand of the present time."

Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan already have formed an economic alliance that has removed customs barriers in mutual trade during the past summer. They are to introduce unified market rules and regulations starting Jan. 1. Putin said that Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan are expected to join the grouping.

"We aren't going to stop at that and are putting forward an ambitious task of reaching a new, higher level of integration with the Eurasian Union," Putin said. "Along with other key players and regional structures, such as the European Union, the United States, China and the Asia Pacific Economic Community, it should ensure stability of global development."

Russia has long called for stronger cooperation between ex-Soviet nations, but earlier attempts at forging closer ties between them have failed due to sharp economic differences. Many former Soviet nations have looked westward and remain suspicious of Moscow's intentions, setting a rocky path to Putin's "Eurasian Union."

Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, considered more Russia-friendly than his pro-Western predecessor, has continued to focus on closer relations with the European Union, shattering Moscow's hopes for luring Ukraine into its orbit. Yanukovych complained last month that the Kremlin was trying to coerce Ukraine into joining the customs union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, and said that he wouldn't yield to pressure.

Even Russia's ties with its closest ally, Belarus, has been marred by tensions. Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, whose government is struggling with a spiraling financial crisis, has staunchly resisted Moscow's push for controlling stake in Belarus' top state-controlled industrial assets.

Putin's plan also comes in potential competition with the Eastern Partnership, an initiative launched two years ago by Poland and Sweden, which aims to deepen European Union integration with six ex-Soviet nations: Georgia, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Armenia and Azerbaijan.

Putin argued that deeper integration between ex-Soviet nations shouldn't contradict their aspirations to forge closer ties with the EU.

Some observers said that Putin's article heralds what could become a top policy goal after his return to presidency. "From the geopolitical viewpoint it represents an attempt to revive the USSR," Alexander Dugin, a political scholar and a longtime proponent of Russian expansionism, said in comments in online news agency Nakanune.

Others were skeptical. Dmitry Oreshkin, an independent political expert, said on Ekho Moskvy radio that Putin's proposal was merely a campaign trick aimed at voters nostalgic about the Soviet past.
 
As far as I remember, the idea of Sov.., I mean, Eurasian Union is not Putin's idea - it was proposed somewhere in mid-1990s. But last years, yes, it's kind of being revived.
 
Hasn't Russia always had the dream of controlling eastern Europe? First it was pan-Slavism, then Soviet expansion, now it is back to pan-Slavism with a healthy drop of Soviet loyalty and just a touch of anti-Imperialism.
 
...Russian Prime Minister proposes 'Eurasian Union'

This is worthy of a separate thread.


Then you might want to check out this band:

Decent-sounding band. I was actually searching for some Czech folk on YT recently. Surprisingly, found nothing except for that old crack song Yojin s bajin :lol:

I liked "among the mountains". Understood a bit of it: lime tree stands between the hills, then something about a deer, then Anechka cries for Janik, something like that :mischief:

The second one won't play due to some sheety restrictions though.

Czestina sounds rather plesant, but not palatalazing consonants at the end of verbs sound unusual and sorta weird :crazyeye:

Some similiar stuff from Russia:
 
Where is the "touch of anti-imperialism"?
Putin can pretend that he is engaging the former SSRs as equals, as opposed to the rest of the west who only wants to grab an empire.
 
Hasn't Russia always had the dream of controlling eastern Europe? First it was pan-Slavism, then Soviet expansion, now it is back to pan-Slavism with a healthy drop of Soviet loyalty and just a touch of anti-Imperialism.
The ideas of pan-Slavism remained pretty much in XIX century and in the heads of some idealists. Nobody today seriously consider the possibility to unite such countries as Serbia, Bulgaria, Czechia, Ukraine and Russia.

As for Soviet expansionism, it was restricted by the borders of former Russian Empire. USSR didn't try to incorporate the other Eastern European countries, and there were good reasons for that.
 
Hasn't Russia always had the dream of controlling eastern Europe? First it was pan-Slavism, then Soviet expansion, now it is back to pan-Slavism with a healthy drop of Soviet loyalty and just a touch of anti-Imperialism.
While underneath it all is an imperialist driven machine.
 
The ideas of pan-Slavism remained pretty much in XIX century and in the heads of some idealists. Nobody today seriously consider the possibility to unite such countries as Serbia, Bulgaria, Czechia, Ukraine and Russia.

As for Soviet expansionism, it was restricted by the borders of former Russian Empire. USSR didn't try to incorporate the other Eastern European countries, and there were good reasons for that.

Like, strong external pressure against it?

The USSR didn't need to physically incorporate other countries, since it controlled them through puppet regimes installed by the Red Army. We Czechs are the sad exception - we installed our own Commies without direct Soviet "assistance" :cringe: Of course, when we realized our mistake 20 years later, the brotherly armies of our Warsaw Pact allies came to restore the "right" form of socialism. (Socialism with a human face? We can't have that!)

Today, Putin's Russia is trying to coerce other ex-soviet countries into a closer "union" with Russia, usually using gas prices as a tool of persuasion.

Funnily, the new Ukrainian government is resisting that, much to RedRalph's chagrin I believe :mischief:
 
Like, strong external pressure against it?

The USSR didn't need to physically incorporate other countries, since it controlled them through puppet regimes installed by the Red Army. We Czechs are the sad exception - we installed our own Commies without direct Soviet "assistance" :cringe: Of course, when we realized our mistake 20 years later, the brotherly armies of our Warsaw Pact allies came to restore the "right" form of socialism. (Socialism with a human face? We can't have that!)

Today, Putin's Russia is trying to coerce other ex-soviet countries into a closer "union" with Russia, usually using gas prices as a tool of persuasion.

Funnily, the new Ukrainian government is resisting that, much to RedRalph's chagrin I believe :mischief:

Yes, there was and is strong external pressure against any integrational processes in the territory of former USSR and Eastern Europe. But this is not much depending on exact location, whether it is inside borders of former RE or outside of them - the position of the West is clear and simple: the more small independent states exist there, the better.

The good reasons which I was talking about is distribution of Russian cultural influence on those territories, primarily, percentage of people who could speak Russian language. Integration of Baltic States, Moldavia, Western Ukraine and Belorussia in the USSR would be much easier than integration of Romania, Bulgaria or Poland.

The other reason was the necessity to keep controlled border states in case of large scale conflict with NATO. In case of WW3, your country was supposed to become nuclear wasteland due to NATO tactical nuclear strikes (along with East Germany), instead of Western parts of the USSR.
 
Yes, there was and is strong external pressure against any integrational processes in the territory of former USSR and Eastern Europe. But this is not much depending on exact location, whether it is inside borders of former RE or outside of them - the position of the West is clear and simple: the more small independent states exist there, the better.
The good reasons which I was talking about is distribution of Russian cultural influence on those territories, primarily, percentage of people who could speak Russian language. Integration of Baltic States, Moldavia, Western Ukraine and Belorussia in the USSR would be much easier than integration of Romania, Bulgaria or Poland.

I am not sure what strong external pressure you are talking about - if you could clarify that (especialy the present one). I heard from my bulgarian friend that there were serious thoughts of uniting Bulgaria with USSR (the language is very similar). There were thoughs of unification of Poland and Czechoslovakia right after war as to create opposition to Germany.(that wouldnt be good either for Russia or west Europe apparantely...). Poland was part of russia for about century...

The other reason was the necessity to keep controlled border states in case of large scale conflict with NATO. In case of WW3, your country was supposed to become nuclear wasteland due to NATO tactical nuclear strikes (along with East Germany), instead of Western parts of the USSR.

Also Czech was supposed to be instrumental in making nuclear wasteland from NATOs Europian allies and czech infantry was planned to push through Germany to Dijon in France if I am correct.:)
 
I am not sure what strong external pressure you are talking about - if you could clarify that (especialy the present one).
The present one is perhaps not so strong as it was before. Examples - "color revolutions", support of Ukrainian nationalists, direct financial support of Saakashvili regime in Georgia.

Poland was part of russia for about century...
Eastern part of it. Curzon line was considered as sort of "fair border" with the rest of Eastern Europe and territorial expansion of the USSR didn't go to the West of it.

Also Czech was supposed to be instrumental in making nuclear wasteland from NATOs Europian allies and czech infantry was planned to push through Germany to Dijon in France if I am correct.:)
Oh, yes, by "supposed" I didn't mean that USSR planned to turn Czekhoslovakia into nuclear wasteland :)
You were our allies. But that was the most probable scenario of war which luckily didn't happen.
 
The other reason was the necessity to keep controlled border states in case of large scale conflict with NATO. In case of WW3, your country was supposed to become nuclear wasteland due to NATO tactical nuclear strikes (along with East Germany), instead of Western parts of the USSR.

I assure you that if it had ever come to that, then pretty much the whole of the USSR would have been turned into nuclear wasteland right after that.
 
Actually, FDR was worse for the poor. After all, he didn't send the rich off to die, or put them in concentration camps.

This is such a hollow objection coming from you who basically places all things good coming from the rich and poor people enlisting being a fact of raising armies in the modern era.
 
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