Quantum Query

Knowze Gungk

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I searched & searched through google, for nearly 10 minutes and came up with nothing relevent. So Can anybody answer me this?

What would result from the elecromagnetic field of a single atom suddenly ceasing to exist?

If you don't know the answer, all theories are welcome.
 
Perfection, where are you?
 
Perfection said:
Universe explodes.

(These things just don't happen)


How can the thing that contains everything explode when there's nothing for it to explode in?

Or did you mean implode?

The possibility of it happening is irrelevent.
 
Knowze Gungk said:
How can the thing that contains everything explode when there's nothing for it to explode in?

Or did you mean implode?
It all goes "boom!"

Knowze Gungk said:
The possibility of it happening is irrelevent.
Well if it did happen then the framework that we base physics off of would probobly be incorrect and all physics flies out the window.

Non-virtual particles don't simpley dissapear.
 
Can they simply "appear"? I think I've read somewhere that particles can pop out of vacuum.
 
Hakim said:
Can they simply "appear"? I think I've read somewhere that particles can pop out of vacuum.


Yea, i read that too, and i would try to explain it, but i am sure there are people that can explain it better then me with out sounding like a lead paint chip eatting 4 year old
 
Hakim said:
Can they simply "appear"? I think I've read somewhere that particles can pop out of vacuum.

I have seen the slides for these things, mostly when dealing with Einstein's not so unknown equation. But I think that only occurs at very high energy levels, allowing that to occur. In can happen when you play around with photons, in particle accelerators and such, where you get a particle and it's antiparticle.

And how would the electromagnetic field of an atom dissapear? Wouldn't that mean the protons and electrons (and possibly the neutrons as well) just up and dissapear? This would seem impossible, except perhaps in an anti-matter reaction, in which case a large amount of energy and pions (?) would be released.
 
If you assume that the universe didnt end you would have some interesting effects to say the least. Such as being able to walk through walls. Which would rock my socks. (To much X-Men 3)
 
Can they simply "appear"? I think I've read somewhere that particles can pop out of vacuum.
You must have read that from an article pertaining to Hawking radiation. Virtual particles do "pop" into existence, but they are a theoretical framework to describe interactions between real particles and how energy is exchanged. Hawking radiation takes place in a region of high gravitational forces, virtual particles appears in opposing pair, resulting in annihilation. A pair appears too close to the blackhole, one of the "virtual" pair falls within the blackhole and the other "virtual" is left to escape, in the process becoming real. Energy is subtracted from the Blackhole, because energy must be conserved, so the blackhole will magically lose its mass through the years. Personally i think it is a convoluted theory to show how we are detecting radiation emnating from blackholes, but thats what i read somewhere.

An atom may become anything if conservation of energy is conserved, it may become energy or transformed into some wierd stuff, but it can't really be not there. if a singularity can't violate this laws of physics, i don't know what can.
 
What would result from the elecromagnetic field of a single atom suddenly ceasing to exist?

This would be because the atom disappeared when it stopped spinning, I believe. I would likely remain 'in reality', but would be crossing different dimensions, instead of crossing our three dimensions.
 
Protons and electons doing what? Does the electomagnetic field disappear if the electron is stripped of a hydrogen?
 
El_Machinae said:
Protons and electons doing what?
Existing
El_Machinae said:
Does the electomagnetic field disappear if the electron is stripped of a hydrogen?
Of course not! There's still a proton!
 
I don't think it's merely due to their existence, but their existence plus their movement.

We see this easily with an electromagnet. There are electrons in the wire already, but moving them causes the field to expand enough to pick up cars.

If the proton still has a field, I would posit that's because the proton is still moving (i.e., spinning). So, if the field disappeared, it would be because the proton stopped spinning. And ... what happens when a proton stops spinning?
 
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