Question about tanks and collateral damage

[JECTX]

So in a current game I am playing I have tanks rolling off of the line and straight into combat. In a couple cities I have great generals and I am giving the tanks city raider I and barrage I (+20% collateral damage). When these tanks, and even tanks with barrage II, attack stacked units in enemy cities there is no damage given to the non defending units. I am wondering if there is something I am missing with the barrage promotion line or if that certain promotion does not work against older units. Ex: I attacked a city that had 60% fortify and 5 musketmen with a tank with barrage II and was victorious but dealt no damage to the static units beneath the defender.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

The good news: welcome to CFC!!!

The bad news: Version 3.17 patch removed the ability for tanks to do collateral damage but they forgot to remove the promotion. I think the unofficial patch fixes this, I play with the HOF mad which fixes it also (it doesn't allow you to give barrage to tanks).

 

[salty mud]

The good news: welcome to CFC!!!

The bad news: Version 3.17 patch removed the ability for tanks to do collateral damage but they forgot to remove the promotion. I think the unofficial patch fixes this, I play with the HOF mad which fixes it also (it doesn't allow you to give barrage to tanks).

I've wasted so many promotions on increasing collateral damage. I'm stupid enough to not actually notice, though.

 

[Joecoolyo]

Really? This is news to me, dang, my tanks used to be so good... anyways, thanks for the heads up guys, no more Barrage Tanks for me (though I don't understand why they would take it out? Why wouldn't a tank be able to do collateral damaged)

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Really? This is news to me, dang, my tanks used to be so good... anyways, thanks for the heads up guys, no more Barrage Tanks for me (though I don't understand why they would take it out? Why wouldn't a tank be able to do collateral damaged)

It's overpowering. CR tanks are strong enough without having another mobile collateral unit raping ALL the targets without any regard for help from anything else.

 

[Xellos-_^]

I've wasted so many promotions on increasing collateral damage. I'm stupid enough to not actually notice, though.

wb is your best friend.

 

[r_rolo1]

The good news: welcome to CFC!!!

The bad news: Version 3.17 patch removed the ability for tanks to do collateral damage but they forgot to remove the promotion. I think the unofficial patch fixes this, I play with the HOF mad which fixes it also (it doesn't allow you to give barrage to tanks).

True and false.

The part that 3.17 patch removed collateral damage given by barrage promos to units without native collateral ability ( like tanks ) is true. What is most likely false is that it was intended... Firaxis never said that ( they only advised Solver to block the barrage line of promo of armored units post factum ). This is why Solver made 2 patch versions, one using alexman sugestion of blocking barrage to armored units, other with a small ammount of colateral damage being made by units with barrage promos but no native collateral ability ( not only because of tanks, but also of possible modded units )

To say the truth, I think it makes sense tanks don't having the ability of making collateral damage in game ( not in RL ): that disallows them to make collateral damage in artilery and mobile artilery.

 

[JECTX]

Ok, thanks for the help. I guess I'll be giving them double city raider from now on...

 

[Supr49er]

Welcome to the Forums JECTX.

 

[JECTX]

Thanks. . I'm just starting back up with civ so hopefully I'll be posting more advanced question and strategies later once I get up to Emperor and Immortal