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Figured I'd start this off now.

My thoughts for the turn depend on what FREE and SABER do, of course.

If FREE builds a city and doesn't immediately betray us, I'll investigate the city and, if they didn't rush an airport, I'll let it be. If they DID rush an airport, we'll have to figure out what to do.

EWS will run between us and SABER - I may hold off on EWS around SCI and, if I can, try bombing ships, assuming that SABER builds no more transports.

If SABER has landed, my thoughts are that we concentrate on killing the southern stack first, because that will be nearest our core cities. MA on mechs and MA's, making sure we have at least one radar tower in range. If we ever get a SAM on top, kill that with mechs.

Do the same for the northern stack.

If we run out of MA that can healthy and can attack, at what point do we turn to cruise missiles and mechs vs. MA/Mechs?

If I can kill the carrier, then once SAMs are gone, bombers will take out as many units as they can.

If SABER doesn't land, I'm going to concentrate cruise missiles on the northern stack, hoping that I can kill the carrier or even a transport.

Bombers will kill random SABER ships - including the carrier sailing out 4 tiles to get more range.
 
Thanks for kicking this off A.T.
Time to award medals from the last predictive poll and start a new one! :mischief:

If FREE builds a city and doesn't immediately betray us, I'll investigate the city and, if they didn't rush an airport, I'll let it be. If they DID rush an airport, we'll have to figure out what to do.
If they rushed an airport, we MUST kill it. No question about that, I don't think.
Only question is what to do about trying to fight a war on 2 fronts :sad:

If SABER has landed, my thoughts are that we concentrate on killing the southern stack first, because that will be nearest our core cities. MA on mechs and MA's, making sure we have at least one radar tower in range. If we ever get a SAM on top, kill that with mechs.
:agree: Southern Stack must go first. Our core is critical to fighting on in a post-invasion environment.

The rest of your post sounds either A) right on the money or B) beyond what my civ skills will allow intelligent comment upon. :)
 
Priorities sound good (FREE city first if airport rush, etc. then southern SABER stack then northern SABER stack). Maybe we'll have none of these to worry about. Wouldn't that be so nice.
 
Battlelog from SABER

Southeast of The Pier:

4/4 destroyer vs. 2/4 sub -> 4/4 destroyer.

Mountain south of Oka:

2 battleships and 10 destroyers bombard mechs - 3 hits so previously
4/4 mechs are 3/4 and 2/4.

16/16 Marine Army vs. 3/4 mech -> 15/16 army.
15/16 army vs. 2/4 mech -> 9/16 army.

I believe they landed the northern force on SCI, which, if they landed the southern force on our island, is good for us.
 
That's just one marine army attacking twice. Oka is indeed on SCI, so yes, it appears they have landed there.

Notice how 2 battleships and 10 destroyers managed 3 hits. :ack:
 
I think it's good news that 1 of their armies is a marine army. I'd rather kill a Marine army than a MA armor (defense of 18 vs. 28).

Actually, I'm sort of assuming that they have another... maybe 2.
 
The problem is if that Marine army could give them a beachhead on our mainland. I wonder why they went for SCI? I think it's likely they can't afford to lose too many units, and really want to make sure that we don't have Rubber.
 
We'd rather see a second army there than on the mainland, no?

I wonder if they put any mobile SAMs in? If not, do we have bombers in range?
 
I think the bombers on the carrier could maybe get there - we can try with jets as well.

It will depend a bit on where their carrier is, as well.
 
btw - all the talk about us losign rubber makes me wonder if we should get some marine builds started in some of our slower building cities, in case we need some and don't have rubber.

What do you guys think? We have 4 marines, which is probably not enough to take a city against mechs. Or should we just not bother?
 
This is true - each of the islands have rubber.

Here's a question: the SABER island to our West has an airfield on it, which means that SABER could reinforce it very, very quickly.

Should we build a helicopter? We can put TOW infantry in it, it can take the airfield and we can then dump a bunch of modern armor on the island with no one being the wiser!!
 
They won't build 30 airfields to reinforce. We can still build ships and just land our modern armors, no need to use choppers or tows.
 
I would assume that SABER has a fair number of airfields as it is - I mean, how do they expect to reinforce a landing without them?

We only have 4 marines right now and if we lose rubber and free doesn't give us any, we will never have more.

We cannot build MA, mechs, tanks, marines, or helicopters or paratroops without rubber, nor can we build a spaceship.

basically, if FREE denies us rubber and they all block their little islands with mechs, we can just quit, cause we will not be able to get rubber back - and TOW/Artillery vs. MA and mechs is just a losing cause.

Sure, we can invade somewhere - if our navy makes it through SABER's 30 destroyers.
 
I would assume that SABER has a fair number of airfields as it is - I mean, how do they expect to reinforce a landing without them?

We only have 4 marines right now and if we lose rubber and free doesn't give us any, we will never have more.

We cannot build MA, mechs, tanks, marines, or helicopters or paratroops without rubber, nor can we build a spaceship.

basically, if FREE denies us rubber and they all block their little islands with mechs, we can just quit, cause we will not be able to get rubber back - and TOW/Artillery vs. MA and mechs is just a losing cause.

Sure, we can invade somewhere - if our navy makes it through SABER's 30 destroyers.

If they were to reinforce an island with 30 units every time a few transports got in range, they would be hard pressed to move the reinforcements back again. Also the 30+ destroyers I suppose are wide spread, you have to remember that Saber does not have an air based EWS like us and they have to cover twice as much area as us with their boats, there should be plenty of holes and if we just bring our units with 5-6 escorts we can easily kill any units that show up.

We can still do bombers, oh and we can do nukes :nuke:, it's not like marines is the only way. If you force someone to do something desperate, chances are they will do it !
 
Here's a question: the SABER island to our West has an airfield on it, which means that SABER could reinforce it very, very quickly.

Should we build a helicopter? We can put TOW infantry in it, it can take the airfield and we can then dump a bunch of modern armor on the island with no one being the wiser!!

When can we do this? I would start the chopper and some marines just in case. If we don't lose our rubber or don't need tha marines we can always switch them to something else later.
 
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