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Quick Question on City Placement

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by Gressulf, Nov 19, 2020.

  1. Gressulf

    Gressulf Chieftain

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    Hey guys!

    Wanted to ask you a quick question on City Placement.
    In my latest game, I am playing as Darius and I am currently wondering where I should put my third city.
    As you can see in the attached screenshot, I have a Stone NW of Capital that I want to grab, but there are no good food resources nearby.

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    I really want to settle a city at A1. It is a PH, has Fresh Water, can work most FPs with the other Cities and can share the Sheep and Horse with my 2nd City, but then I have to settle another city to the W in order to grab the Stone.

    Question is:
    1. Would you settle A1 and if so, Would you settle B1 (on the Stone) or B2 in order to get the Stone? None of them are really good options.
    2. If not settling A1, would you settle A2 or A3 to get the Stone? A2 would be able to share the FPs and the Gold with the Capital, but A3 would block some land from Gilgamesh which could be good, and could still share Green Tiles with Capital and FPs with 2nd City.

    Note: The other 'C's are just put there as potential City Placements and can be ignored. Of course settling A3 would make the 'C' to the north un-settleable.

    Appreciate your comments.
     
  2. civac

    civac Warlord

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    It depends your objective in the game. If you need the stone right now, for the Pyramids say, settle a city on the stone and let it stagnate.

    If you do not need the stone right now settle the nothern C and then A1 in this order and ignore the stone until you place a later filler city there.
     
  3. Qactus

    Qactus Romani ite domum

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    I'd probably make Lisbon my third city. You can already see Joao's copper and act quickly should he start to improve it, so there won't be any pointed sticks to surprise your Immortals.
     
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  4. lymond

    lymond Rise Up! (Phoenix Style!) Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    A1 is fine actually. Serves a good purpose as helper city for Pers, helping with 4 cottages for bureau later. But all those FPS and the sheep eventually makes it good too. Not bad considering the dearth of food specials here

    Agree with Civac. If you realy want stone for Mids, then just settle on it.
     
  5. Gressulf

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    Thank you very much for your replies. BTW, I am playing on Immortal, for whatever that is worth.

    @civac The only reason I go for Stone is to go for the Mids. It is sometimes good for other Wonders as well, but... The other reason is that it is a good trading resource as the AIs value it a lot.
    It is already a little bit late 2200 BC, so if I will go for the Mids, it has to be now

    @Qactus I like the way you think. I think Joao is my first target, but I want to put down one more city before I start building up for my attack.

    @lymond Thank you very much for your insight. I guess I will settle on the Stone if I decide to go for the Mids.
     
  6. Anysense

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    I would advise against Mids here. There is not much food around to support scpecialists and you have gold and fur for early :) and is that silver to the east of the fur? Better focus on utilizing Financial as you have decent amount of cottagable land. I'd be inclined to settle c first for blocking reasons - Gilgamesh has two cities now, meaning that third will be settled soon. Although you might just let him settle there and make Lisbon your third city then come back to take cities that Gilgamesh settled for you.
     
  7. Fippy

    Fippy Mycro Junkie Queen

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    Same :)
    You already know a very wonder happy AI with HC, they might go early.
    If stone would be placed comfortable, sure..but it's not.

    All depends on playing style ofc, but HAs look very good here with a gold mine for easy HBR.
    Usually i mix in some Immortals cos they are so strong against Archers & Axes while being :hammers: cheap.

    So i wouldn't use blocking cities.
    A1 makes a lot of sense before rushing.
     

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