Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Mise, Jan 14, 2009.
He's a Finn.
My impression is that he's sleeping and dreaming about animals he can't hunt in Finland...
No, he's a Finn. He's so drunk he's hallucinating. Or he's hallucinating from alcohol withdrawal, delerium tremens.
This is about European national stereotypes after all.
The Czechs have apologised to Bulgaria for depicting the nation as a series of toilets. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7830498.stm
I like it.
Sure, some of the countries depictions might be more inappropriately characterized, but on the whole I think the work is good. Nothing really racist or particularly damning in my eyes...
Then ought not the Finn to be in a sauna?
Look at the background, it's the typical wooden staves of the inside of a sauna.
So he is in his sauna, with his gun, drunk, seeing pink elephants. Typical Finn...
I think its funny.
I'm not offended by the way Denmark is representet. Lego and Muhammed-cartoon.
Even if the cartoon is controversial, and doesn't represent the wiev of all danes, its still the one thing people remember us by.
But I dont get why the artist lied about who made it. Whats the point?!
Ooh thats what it is? I didn't get that.
Czechia to me is more like... good beer and p=rn models.
Mmmm Monica Sweetheart
he wouldnt have got the job and woulndt have been able to pull this off.
Dachs you're a sausage sucking Nazi.
Artist is well known mystificator, besides some artists who would depict their nation in that way would have harsh times. Thats somewhat point
Černý is mocking him - he picked the quotes in order to make him look like an idiot which is something for what he should get a medal or something
1) to mock the Czech gov.
2) it's part of the joke - read the texts written by the fictional co-authors in the brochure explaining the meaning of "their" contribution. Typical BS some modern artists usually say. Černý probably wanted to mock them as well, as he initially suggested.
I don't consider anything from the installation offensive, besides the depiction of Bulgaria. If I was a Bulgarian, I'd be quite offended at that...
Yeah, but you'd be Bulgarian. So no one would care.
Jesus... This is supposed to show stereotypes. Stereotypes are usually either wrong, stupid or offensive. If the Bulgarians can't take it as a joke, it just shows how terribly insecure they are.
But I don't think that this is the case, most of them probably laugh with the others, only their government needs to score patriotic points now when everybody is criticizing it for the handling of the gas crisis.
Well, if someone decided to caricaturize Russia in such a way, and decided to make it a large red star surrounded by bunch of vodka battles or something, I wouldn't be offended at all. But if Russia was portrayed as a public toilet, I would dislike it very much...
Possibly I'm being too much of a f-сking purist.
Well, if they hadn't used this type of toilet, they wouldn't be stereotyped this way It's much more fair than Romania, which is being stereotyped as the home of fictional creature depicted in a novel by foreign author who didn't know a damn about the country
Personally, I'd picture Russia as a giant Father Frost with a gas pipe instead of his staff (and vodka in his pocket ).
It think it is provocating, political incorrect and a play with sterotyps, but not racism.
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