RAND 2.0 beta Gameplay and feedback

[Zootroy]

By "Religions disabled" I mean religions were not being founded when a trigger tech was discovered. I played a game into the middle ages thinking they were simply being founded on another continent faster than me but even after contact the entire world lacked faith.

No permutation of Choose or Limited religions mattered. My default playstyle is to leave them off. Didn't fiddle with inquisitions.

But I think you're right that it was a cache issue. I started up a ton of Blitz games as Indians so I could rush Hinduism to test different settings. After I tried toggling "Multiple Religions" in BUG they seem to be founding again, even when I set it back on a new game.

 

[antoca]

But I think you're right that it was a cache issue.

Caching can be good if you use only vanilla Civ4, but with mods, you know, they are not constant - so this is not good idea. I have disabled caching, and you can do it too, following instructions:
1) Open CivilizationIV.ini (/Documents&Settings/User/My Documents/My Games/Beyond the Sword/ folder if you use winXP) in text editor.
2) Look for strings:

; Disable caching of file system (may slow initialization)
DisableFileCaching = 0

; Disable caching of xml and file system (may slow initialization)
DisableCaching = 0

3) Edit them:

; Disable caching of file system (may slow initialization)
DisableFileCaching = 1

; Disable caching of xml and file system (may slow initialization)
DisableCaching = 1

3a) If you don't have such strings, just add them.

 

[Zootroy]

I only update a mod occasionally (Beta2 is the first time I updated AND since 1.75C) so disabling caching seems a little drastic... Is the cache located in one spot that's easy to just delete or force invalidation when I install an updated version?

 

[JosEPh_II]

Just hold down the Shift key while the Mod Loads.

JosEPh

 

[zoob]

Hi.
Wohoo, first post

Let me introduce myself first of all. It started with me watching my cousin play Civ1 on a Amiga 500 somewhere in the beginning of the 90s. We played days and nights Civ2 at a friends house on his Pentium I. Strangely i skipped Civ3, although a tried it once. After a couple of years of playing FPS i returned with playing Civ4 v1.61. Afterwards i switched to BtS and got to know civfanatics.com and the huge amount of mods.

Now it's my part to participate in the community!

Really great work all ppl put into this modmod, especially Afforess. I have been completely stunned by it's complexity and all those features.

As i want RAND to develope further, i give some feedback & critics. As there are zillions of positive ones already mentioned, i only write those that imo need to be fixed, or talked about.
(RAND 2.0 beta 2, map size huge, all standard except "unlimited wonders", noble, Epic)

- Slavery:
Due to the heavy research drop (-33%) in civics from barter, research of slavery and instant switch is essential. As AI switches to slavery much later, they fall behind in tech (except they have PLENTY of resources at hand that give coin). Furthermore, i think 1 free slave in all cities is way too much production (although the slave doesn't even show up in the capital) early on. Small cities build things way too fast in early stage of the game). With Village Hall you already get a free specialist, for example a free slave.

- Chiefdom: -50% maintainance doesn't show up in city screen (although Despotism gives +25% * 2 = +50%, which shows up)

- Despotism: +1 unhappy for 10% foreign culture is maybe a bit much, as there is 99% foreign culture when you capture a city. city will drop to size 1 soon, as noone produces food. (happiness is rare early on). Maybe +1 unhappy for 25% foreign culture?

- Caste: i never used it, it's way too weak.
- Prophets: never used.

- Petra: "can turn 1 person into priest" makes it possible to use the free specialist as priest, which would give 2 + 3 + 3 = 8 great ppl, too much imo. Plz remove it. Temple of Artemis is fine.

- in AND Enhanced Civics Mod 1.0 a specialist gives +1 great ppl, which is good for not having those great ppl (great prophet/merchant) so fast early on who fix your economy when settled in a city.

Okay, i think i's enough now, otherwise noone will read

 

[gunburned]

I was able to Launch an A-bomb before the Manhattan Project was complete,
not shure if this is a bug or was intended.
Is this normal?

 

[Aline]

I was able to Launch an A-bomb before the Manhattan Project was complete,
not shure if this is a bug or was intended.
Is this normal?

Not sure but i think i have observed this aswell.
The manhaten project was apparently changed from a world wonder to a national wonder(probly so you have to build it yourself to get nukes) but the effect that everyone can build nukes once it is build still remains.
So aslong as anyone has built it you can build nukes even if you did not build "your" manhaten project.

 

[Slarki]

Is the revolution mod changed in any way?
I captured a whole kingdom in three rounds (there were 5 cities).
Normally, I can destroy any revolution. But now, each 3 rounds (!), they revolt. If I dont kill all enemies at once, they get overwhelming reinforcements. I play on prince difficulty..
It isn´t possible to build that many troops to stop the revolutions..

 

[Dreifels]

Is the revolution mod changed in any way?
I captured a whole kingdom in three rounds (there were 5 cities).
Normally, I can destroy any revolution. But now, each 3 rounds (!), they revolt. If I dont kill all enemies at once, they get overwhelming reinforcements. I play on prince difficulty..
It isn´t possible to build that many troops to stop the revolutions..

revolution still is buggy. game crashes above round 720 somewhere, and I counted ore than 800 (!) barbarians growed new in one turn (giant map)

 

[Camarada78]

Hi.
Wohoo, first post

Let me introduce myself first of all. It started with me watching my cousin play Civ1 on a Amiga 500 somewhere in the beginning of the 90s. We played days and nights Civ2 at a friends house on his Pentium I. Strangely i skipped Civ3, although a tried it once. After a couple of years of playing FPS i returned with playing Civ4 v1.61. Afterwards i switched to BtS and got to know civfanatics.com and the huge amount of mods.

Now it's my part to participate in the community!

Really great work all ppl put into this modmod, especially Afforess. I have been completely stunned by it's complexity and all those features.

As i want RAND to develope further, i give some feedback & critics. As there are zillions of positive ones already mentioned, i only write those that imo need to be fixed, or talked about.
(RAND 2.0 beta 2, map size huge, all standard except "unlimited wonders", noble, Epic)

- Slavery:
Due to the heavy research drop (-33%) in civics from barter, research of slavery and instant switch is essential. As AI switches to slavery much later, they fall behind in tech (except they have PLENTY of resources at hand that give coin). Furthermore, i think 1 free slave in all cities is way too much production (although the slave doesn't even show up in the capital) early on. Small cities build things way too fast in early stage of the game). With Village Hall you already get a free specialist, for example a free slave.

I've done many great games without even researching Slavery. If you put your first Great Prophet as a specialist (+5 gold) you can get lots and lots of turns with 100% research.

- Despotism: +1 unhappy for 10% foreign culture is maybe a bit much, as there is 99% foreign culture when you capture a city. city will drop to size 1 soon, as noone produces food. (happiness is rare early on). Maybe +1 unhappy for 25% foreign culture?

Despotism also give +1 happiness for each troop in a city. So, when invading a big city it is normal to leave a bunch of soldiers there.

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- Caste: i never used it, it's way too weak.

Agree, i rarely use it too. It should drop Rebelliousness drastically, or give more happiness...

- Prophets: never used.

It is the first civics i change. I always create a religion and start using it as soon as possible. I always build Stonehenge and create the first religion (hinduism).

- Petra: "can turn 1 person into priest" makes it possible to use the free specialist as priest, which would give 2 + 3 + 3 = 8 great ppl, too much imo. Plz remove it. Temple of Artemis is fine.

- in AND Enhanced Civics Mod 1.0 a specialist gives +1 great ppl, which is good for not having those great ppl (great prophet/merchant) so fast early on who fix your economy when settled in a city.

Dont see a problem there, i always use Enhanced Civic...

 

[Jamz]

I more or less given up playing with religions in the beta build, everything else works fine.

I tried reinstalling the game and the mod, deleting the Civ.ini file, clearing my cashe. Also fooled around a bit with different settings in custom game. (i always play custom game full_of_recourses 3.0 map type, havn't tried doing a quick game yet, maybe i should try that.)