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Random Raves Fifty-one: Anticipation of Joy!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Birdjaguar, Aug 3, 2020.

  1. Arakhor

    Arakhor Dremora Courtier Moderator

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    Did you mean "wouldn't"?

    I take it that you did a search for the last birthday thread I had? St Bartholomew's Day is definitely infamous, yes.
     
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    Kyriakos Alien spiral maker

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    He likely means "would"; John Paul II was the pope before Razi.
     
  3. JohannaK

    JohannaK Heroically Clueless

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    John Paul II, the arch-conservative? Why wouldn't he?
     
  4. Phrossack

    Phrossack Armored Fish and Armored Men

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    Actually, St. Bartholomew is the only saint I associate with anything infamous and I've been reading some articles on the French Wars of Religion lately!
     
  5. west india man

    west india man Immortal

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    John Paul II was a big public supporter of US-backed dictatorships, especially in Latin America, to the point that he refused to condemn Oscar Romero's murder
     
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  6. MaryKB

    MaryKB Goddess Queen Supporter

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    He was anti-communist to a fault. It's not so much that he supported those dictatorships, he simply despised communism so much that he was more lenient on regimes that fought against it, even if they were brutal authoritarians.

    He was huge on social justice, however.
     
  7. Arakhor

    Arakhor Dremora Courtier Moderator

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    Given that I thought that he was strongly anti-Nazi, I thought that extended to other right-wing movements. Maybe, as Mary says, it was more his anti-Communist bias showing through.
     
  8. MaryKB

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    My big meeting went well :)

    Another rave: I had this absolutely adorable dream last night about a tiger cub. I was playing with it as if it was a kitten/puppy ... it was big and fluffy, and very gentle.
     
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    I kinda think "cool with brutal authoritarians as long as they don't like communism" isn't very compatible with "huge on social justice"
     
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    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    John Paul II was pretty important in ensuring that the reforms of Vatican II stayed reformed, so I don't think it's quite right to refer to him as an "arch-conservative". He was in his time regarded as a leading moderniser within the church, it's just that when you're talking about an organisation as hidebound as the Catholic Church, a moderniser is someone prepared to bring the Church into the nineteenth century.
     
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    cardgame Obsessively Opposed to the Typical

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    Why were people told to hate communism, again? Was it not the brutal authoritarianism?
     
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    JPII was Polish, he had personal experience with the Soviets.
     
  13. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    up yours!
    I thought you'd hoarded enough…
     
  14. JohannaK

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    And the Nazis!

    He died when I was 11, so I don't remember a lot about him.
     
  15. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    He actually managed to make (or apply) some important changes, such as keeping mass in the vernacular so people actually know what is being said, as well as be the precursor of better ones, but that's compared to an absolutely retrograde institution as the Roman Catholic Church. It's like giving all free men aged 21 and with a statutory minimum amount of real estate the vote… better than unipersonal monarchies, but sometimes you need more.
     
  16. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    I just launched my textmode art group's instagram account! *fireworks*

    You can check it out here or if you're on mobile it's @Lazarusblocks

    I will be curating Lazarus textmode art from the 90s and modern day. Every single piece of art posted is made using ASCII characters and a maximum of 16 colours.
     
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  17. Valka D'Ur

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    I was in high school when he became Pope (Grade 11; I was 15). I remember this because one of the daily requirements of the social studies class I was taking at the time was that the teacher assigned one student each day to find 5 news items to bring to the class the next day, write them on the blackboard, and the class would discuss them.

    One of my five items was the investiture of John Paul II. As I recall, the discussion that resulted was because none of the other kids in the class knew what "investiture" meant and the teacher had to explain it. I have no recollection of the other four news items I had that day.
     
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    Today at work I was compared to Wonder Woman.
     
  19. MaryKB

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    PLAN IS DONE!
     
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    We've been activated!

    Spoiler Context :
     
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