Rants/questions about Civ4

Mustakrakish

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Don't you think we need a thread in which we can ask/rant about civ4 ridiculousness that don't really deserve it's own thread? I mean not newbie questions and stuff, but uh... some advanced angry rants that are also questions in a way.
Where one can rant about his frustration with the game and maybe someone who knows the solution or why the game acts in that particular way in that particular situation would enlighten others.

Like here's a couple of mine uh... rants/questions:

In my current game Hannibal is "pleased" with me with +10 while he is "friendly" with Shaka with only +7!!! WTH? :mad:

Second: (just a question this one)

In one of my games I joined a cozy AI block. I gave them techs, gone to war etc. What I noticed is that in this game when certain AI's accumulated negative uh (how are they called again?)... Anyway they eventually got angry with me, because I couldn't give them everything. But what I noticed is that with Sury for example after some time his negative "you refused to help us", "you refused to help us during war", "you refused to accept our favorite civic" etc. would all disappear :eek: and the dude would become pleased and even friendly with me again! Is that supposed to happen?
Because I can swear that in all my games before all the negative - (goddamn how are they called?) would all just stuck and stay till the end of times. So in every game eventually everyone would hate me in the late game no matter what I try. I mean even 1 sole AI would be hard for me to keep at friendly. :confused:

Feel free to post your rants/questions if this deserves to be a thread that is... :)
 
The first is about a feature the game has called "hidden diplo modifiers" . You will find abundant discussion about it if you search it, but I'll give you a tentative awnser for your situation : Shaka and hannibal, as they are warmonger civs ( han not so much ), have a modifier because of that ( suposedely to try to avoid the warmonger of throwing at each other necks while the peaceniks tech away ). That should cover 2 diplo points, As you have atleast -1 of hidden diplo modifier ( otherwise you would be friendly with han @ +10 diplo ) you should be playing a level high enough , where you get diplo penalties vs the AI

To the second: no, those modifiers are theoretically not forever. There is always a chance of all the AI forget you denied a demand or a war request, but it changes a lot between leaders. Some, as Sury or Catherine, tend to forget early while others ... well, they hold grunges almost forever :p
 
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