Settings: Size: Random Shape: Random Civ: Random No Barbs since ThERat really doesn't like them Emporer Aggression: Unknown Standard AW: Must declare war as soon as we have contact with no trades, but we can look at our opponents, their techs, etc. The Roster ThERat Greebley AndrewN TheOverseer M60A3TTS Mathias may also join us if he wishes and has the time (was on auto-skip in last game). -------------- We ended up with the Zulu. I kept the first start that is very dry. We met Carthage fairly early and survived a number of Warriors thrown at us. Looks like we have only one opponent early on so have a chance. Note that a second civ might be behind Carthage. Carthage sent an unprotected Settler out which is now retreating back. Note I do see an irrigated Carthage square so there is water. We just have to survive until we get it. To get this to work on my new vista computer I made a scenario with no changes to the rules and this appears to work. It is probably worth trying to load it in Civ to make sure it works for you especially if you have an odd set up (like a mac or something). I think it will be more cross-platform rather than less however.