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Ratification of the Constitution

Discussion in 'Team CivFanatics' started by talonschild, Sep 16, 2012.

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Do you approve of adopting the proposed Constitution?

Poll closed Sep 23, 2012.
  1. Yes.

    72.7%
  2. No.

    9.1%
  3. Yes, with reservations against X (please specify in comments).

    18.2%
  4. Abstain.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. talonschild

    talonschild Drive-By NESer

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    This is the most recent version of the Constitution - thanks to YossarianLives! - and is up for ratification.

    Should it become official, we will hold the Elector-General election immediately. The other posts are too recently filled to warrant another election. All elections will synchronize for the following cycle.

    EDIT: Fixed errors as pointed out by grant2004.
     
  2. Caledorn

    Caledorn Emperor

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    I assume the part of the second in command being responsible for votes and elections will be removed, and that the only reason it's still there is because it was forgotten. :)
     
  3. YossarianLives

    YossarianLives Deity

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    Yeah, I simply overlooked it. I think this change is uncontroversial enough (since we just gave those responsibilities to the new Elector-General position), that we should just consider that line removed from the official version.
     
  4. Caledorn

    Caledorn Emperor

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    Agreed! :)
     
  5. RegentMan

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    Move my "reservations" vote to a full yes. I read through it quickly and thought private elections wasn't mentioned, then lo and behold I see it smack dab in there.
     
  6. grant2004

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    Yes, with reservations against the two places where 2nd in command is stated to have responsibility for elections, which we're discussing editing out.

     
  7. talonschild

    talonschild Drive-By NESer

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    Put those down to a failure to edit properly on my part. They will be fixed.
     
  8. 1889

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    Never mind
     
  9. talonschild

    talonschild Drive-By NESer

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    Bowsling, what's the issue?
     
  10. RegentMan

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    Heh why it's important to have polls private. :)
     
  11. talonschild

    talonschild Drive-By NESer

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    The point of public was to be able to discuss issues, rather than people hiding in shadows. We want to achieve consensus.
     
  12. RegentMan

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    That's what the discussion thread is for. The polling thread is for people to record their vote without fear of reprisals. A decision doesn't need to be unanimous to achieve consensus.
     
  13. talonschild

    talonschild Drive-By NESer

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    And it ain't. We have 90% in favour. But no reason not to shoot for 100. That said, Bowsling, if you want me to bugger off I'll think nothing off it.
     
  14. Bowsling

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    I just think the whole elections concept is a waste of time at best, and very divisive and damaging to the team at worst. I'd rather just focus on the game. That said, I'm fine with elections if you guys want them - just as long as it doesn't interfere with our ability to play the game as best as we can.
     
  15. talonschild

    talonschild Drive-By NESer

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    Cool. Sorry to cause a ruckus.
     
  16. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    Yeah, much votes and elections can be a lot of slow bureaucracy, bur we still need to have a way of deciding controversial things. We have many people on the team with many and different ideas on lot of the issues. So we still need a way to determine which "politician" the team believes their way of thinking most.
     
  17. YossarianLives

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    Well, it's been over a week that this poll has been up, so I think we can consider this version of the Constitution as ratified and in effect, right?

    Please note that I removed the two areas where it was still saying that the Second-In-Command had any polling responsibilities.

    The next step is to vote for Elector-General, right? If they are interested in the position, I nominate talonschild, Aivoturso and Arkipeller for this.
     
  18. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    Yeah, and we need urgently new votes. Our Prime-minister disappeared - havent seen Dave posting in here for like weeks.
     
  19. talonschild

    talonschild Drive-By NESer

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    Yes, and it is a pity. We could just promote his deputy for the duration... yes, you, 2metra. We don't need a new Chief Diplomat yet. Else we could get to an early election cycle.

    I accept the nomination, incidentally.
     
  20. Caledorn

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    Actually, we should probably revise in something about the second in command taking over the responsibilities of the first until a vote is called, in case of absence.
     

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