Hello, guys. Been a while since I've been here, specially to start a thread of my own. But recently I've been reading about modern physics, such as the theory of elementary particles, string theory, etc... One thing I didn't know before reading new books recently is that the forces of the universe are conveyed as particles, called messenger particles. A weird idea, but not weirder than extra dimensions, and other wild ideas of modern theories. But I'm having trouble converging that notion with the central idea of general relativity that gravity is caused by warps in the fabric of space; I mean, it's simple to conceive the idea that such warps can cause "slides" that matter will follow in space time, but how the heck a shape can be communicated as particles is something none of the books I read confronted. But at this point, I was taking this difficulty as a linguistic problem, as the inadequacy of rhetoric to explain what the warping of reality truly is. However, considering this difficulty, something came up that challenged all the understanding I was building, and again, that I didn't found confronted in the books I've read or the lectures I've watched on youtube: Here's the problem - the core idea of special relativity, what lead Einstein to his amazing achievements, was the concept that no matter, no energy, no information or influence, can travel faster than the speed of light - therefore, the speed of gravity also could not exceed this limit. If that is true, than how come the gravitons - the messenger particles for gravity - can transmit the monstrous force of a black hole? I mean, black holes are black because light-speed is not good enough as escape velocity; so, gravitons also shouldn't be able to reach escape velocity. It's easy to understand a black hole if you understand the concept of gravity as a deformation of the space-time, but as an effect of constant exchanging of messenger particles, it seems to me that gravity would neutralize itself, making it impossible for the particles to escape it's own shackles. It would be relatively easy to accommodate this if I thought that the particle escapes "only once" to cause the warping of space time, than later the already curved space would not need the trapped particles to exert influence. But this would create a gravitational influence that, once settled, is instantaneous across the space and not bound by the light-speed limit, flying in the face of the whole theory. I couldn't figure out how to reconcile these - and I doubt I'd be meeting many astrophysicists in my city for a chat, so, is there anyone here who is physics-prone who can enlighten the topic without getting overly mathematical? Regards .