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Religious Victory strategy help

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Hall of Fame Discussion' started by pholtz, Feb 22, 2008.

  1. Shadondriel

    Shadondriel Freak

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    I don't get those diplomatic victories at all.

    Basically you need to make half of the world your vassal, so you get even the remote chance of anybody voting for you. :-S
    So far I have never seen anybody even thinking of voting for the human player, even after gifting 5000 gold, 10 technologies etc.
    That loophole is the only way I can imagine a victory.
     
  2. pholtz

    pholtz King

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    My first two attempts were self voting going wrong and I got the win the normal way. I only needed to get friendly with a civ to get him/her to vote for me.
     
  3. jesusin

    jesusin Ant GOTM Staff

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    Why not? If you don't pursue early religions they will have their own, so no matter for how long they have got your religion, they won't spread it until the AP is built and that will be too late.
     
  4. Shadondriel

    Shadondriel Freak

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    Somehow I have never achieved that :sad:
    Is there any trick to make them like you?

    Even with +4 religion and +4 trade they somehow only roughly get above cautious in my games
     
  5. pholtz

    pholtz King

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    Not sure if I'm the one to ask, I'm pretty sure there is a guide somewhere that lists the events that improve relations with an AI. Can anyone post a link to that here?

    Some ideas.

    Get a resource trade going.
    Trade Techs, even accepting bad trades
    If they ask for something, give it to them
    If they get in a war, join
    Gifting money/techs doesn't seem to help much.. but gifting a city seems to
    Gifting a resource for 10 turns helps also
    Share the religion

    Also, different AI's react differently, so choice of the AI opponents is important.

    Edit: I found this, it may help http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy/diplo_victory_notes.php
     
  6. Shadondriel

    Shadondriel Freak

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    I'll try that thanks.
    I guess I should practice that during a few games.
     
  7. bestje

    bestje Big Game Hunter

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    my advice for good relations is to not get loads of negative modifiers and most AIs will like you fairly quickly
     
  8. Shadondriel

    Shadondriel Freak

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    What should I do if one civ asks to stop trading with another?
    I always get lots of minuses because of that
     
  9. WastinTime

    WastinTime Deity Supporter

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    Don't play with opponents that don't like each other.
     
  10. Bleys

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    Nonsense. Like all good Fanatical Religious Dictators, I use the Sword to FORCE my religion down the throats of my oppponents/minions, MWHAHAHAH.

    On a serious note, sometimes this is the best way to do it. Some civs love to stay in Theocracy, and you end up never able to spread your religion to them without "tricks". You can try gifting Missionaries, but that doesnt always work. What does seem to work is starting a war, taking a couple of their cities, and then giving them back after popping the religion you want yourself.
     
  11. Andrei_V

    Andrei_V King

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    You can build a city of your own near their borders, spread the religion there, then gift them that city. It's faster than declaring war etc.
     
  12. Shadondriel

    Shadondriel Freak

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    Religious and diplomatic victories are sometimes quite silly.
    Still trying to get below 66% to have a vote ^^

    just imagine this scenario
    "After his glorious attempts to lower his population by dumping 5 million citizens into the ocean, providing 30 million citizens as sacrifices for the Aztecs, hanging 5 million citizens along the borderline as decoration and donating further 50 million citizens to human testing research facilities, we hereby declare Shadondriel president of the world" :eek:

    Besides that, does anyone have a list of which leaders like each other and which don't? I just don't seem to get the grasp :(
     
  13. ParadigmShifter

    ParadigmShifter Random Nonsense Generator

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    Hey, get this reference book, it's far better than the IMO rushed BtS manual (the Warlords manual was loads better, the BtS one doesn't even list leader traits or UU and UB stats!)

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=236346

    "Warmonger respect" is what you are looking for I think.
     
  14. Shadondriel

    Shadondriel Freak

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    Wow, never heard of that. Doh! I guess I'm still a newbie after all. Thanks a lot for showing me the way to improve myself
     

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