Remember, Remember (the January 6th edition)

[Cutlass]

Brilliant writing.

As to what to call the day itself, I've long thought "Insurrection Day" but a small bit of my brain that goes off on weird psychological tangents is fond of "Trump Appreciation Day" but I'm not sure if it's spreading the irony too thick.

"Traitor Day"

 

[Birdjaguar]

"Trump's Treason"

 

[TheCleanerDragon]

Which CIV games do you play?

Usually Civ4 or Civ 5. I don't usually play the regular randomly generated maps, I prefer historical scenarios. Rhye's and Fall of Civilization - Dawn of Civilization is my preferred Civ4 mod and if I play Civ4 I usually play that or some other derivative of RFC. Civ5 has some good scenarios like Fall of Rome so occasionally I play it just not as much as 4.

 

[DaggerDigwillow]

Polls overwhelmingly show the vast majority of people couldn't care less about Jan 6th. The kabuki theater that is the Jan 6th commission is just embarrassing to watch as was the actual event itself.

 

[IglooDame]

Polls overwhelmingly show the vast majority of people couldn't care less about Jan 6th. The kabuki theater that is the Jan 6th commission is just embarrassing to watch as was the actual event itself.

Citation needed.

 

[Plains-Cow]

Usually Civ4 or Civ 5. I don't usually play the regular randomly generated maps, I prefer historical scenarios. Rhye's and Fall of Civilization - Dawn of Civilization is my preferred Civ4 mod and if I play Civ4 I usually play that or some other derivative of RFC. Civ5 has some good scenarios like Fall of Rome so occasionally I play it just not as much as 4.

Ahh, I love the historical scenarios, too. You ever play 1000AD scenarios in CIV IV? I love playing that for some reason.

 

[Lexicus]

Citation needed.

Jan. 6 Hearings Have No Impact on Opinion | Monmouth University Polling Institute

4 in 10 would back a Trump presidential bid in 2024

www.monmouth.edu

This shows the hearings have had no effect on public opinion regarding Jan 6, which is slightly different than "the overwhelming majority don't care about Jan 6."

However, I will say that polls seem to show the economy as ranking at the top of issues that voters are concerned about for this election, and I've not seen any list of issues that voters are concerned about that even includes Jan 6. e.g https://news.gallup.com/poll/404243/economy-top-election-issue-abortion-crime-next.aspx

 

[Gori the Grey]

'pends how you Google:

Economy, functioning Democracy lead concerns for majority of voters: Poll

Nearly eight in 10 likely voters also said that they feel things in the U.S. today are "out of control."

www.axios.com

Never in my 57 years of life has "having a functioning democracy" even shown up on such polls; that's a measure of how much people care about what happened on Jan 6 2020.

And the answer is going to depend entirely on how the poll question is asked:

"Do you enjoy watching Congressional hearings?" vs
"Do you think lawmakers should attempt to enact legislation preventing 1000 people from violently overturning the vote of 150 million?"

 

[Birdjaguar]

Jan. 6 Hearings Have No Impact on Opinion | Monmouth University Polling Institute

4 in 10 would back a Trump presidential bid in 2024

www.monmouth.edu

This shows the hearings have had no effect on public opinion regarding Jan 6, which is slightly different than "the overwhelming majority don't care about Jan 6."

However, I will say that polls seem to show the economy as ranking at the top of issues that voters are concerned about for this election, and I've not seen any list of issues that voters are concerned about that even includes Jan 6. e.g https://news.gallup.com/poll/404243/economy-top-election-issue-abortion-crime-next.aspx

More importantly, the hearings have affected the DOJ and its investigations. Ignorant Trumpers will not be persuaded to change their minds. There is no antidote for stupidity. Making all that evidence public is a good thing even if it is mostly preaching to choir. The real value is making the actual truth known, identifying the players, and pushing DOJ into action.

 

[danjuno]

40% of this country is perfectly content to genocide the other 60%. They've made it pretty clear through their behavior. You're either part of the MAGA cult or you're a deepstate pedophile.

 

[Kyriakos]

Branding 40% of your own population as deplorables or similar, shouldn't take many brain cells to identify as a recipe for your own demise.

 

[tjs282]

that's a measure of how much people care about what happened on Jan 6 2020

Unfortunately, it could also be a measure of how many people genuinely believe that the Orange Idiot reelly woz "robbed" by "voter frahd" and the "deep state" of his "riteful" elekshun win.

Or is that the same thing?

 

[Gori the Grey]

That, too, depends on how one asks the question, and yes, some phrasings bring in Dems and election-deniers answering the same way for different reasons. But since this particular poll has it as a concern for Democrats specifically, I assume the question was phrased along the lines of "are you concerned about the events of January 6?"

Ah, it was "what is a bigger concern: economy or functioning democracy?" 63% of Democrats and 29% of Republicans say "functioning democracy." So yes, but that lets you factor out the portion who are election deniers.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Branding 40% of your own population as deplorables or similar, shouldn't take many brain cells to identify as a recipe for your own demise.

"Deplorable" harkens back to Hillary and 2016. We are way past that. It's 2022 and I am not Hillary. Fervid Trump supporters are both ignorant and stupid; deplorable means something else. The percentage is up for debate. Clearly, you think 40% of the US population fits that category. Given your well known disdain for the US, I am surprised you are not celebrating what you see as its demise.

Having actually lived around Trump supporters for the last 7 years and seen how they behave and contribute to daily life in the US, I would venture that I know much better than you what they are like.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Actually only a pretty small percentage is fully "deplorable." But 40% of the nation won't hold those deplorables in check, won't denounce them, won't repudiate them. So they're deplorable-enablers. And therefore the effect is as though 40% of the nation is fully deplorable.

Yes, it probably does mean the demise of this once-great nation.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Apparently 40% of USians think the 2020 election was stolen. Ignorance and stupidity reign all across the conservative side of the political spectrum.

From Newsweek

 

[DaggerDigwillow]

Why Jan. 6 is mostly absent from the midterms

Why Jan. 6 is mostly absent from the midterms

Most House Republicans voted for Trump-backed election challenges after a violent riot. Less than 2 percent of broadcast TV spending this cycle has focused on it.

www.politico.com

The Jan. 6 Panel’s Hearings Are (Mostly) Falling on Voters’ Deaf Ears

The Jan. 6 Panel’s Hearings Are (Mostly) Falling on Voters’ Deaf Ears

Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony seems to have done little to change voters’ minds about another Trump presidential bid

morningconsult.com

Rep. Andy Barr says voters don't care about 2020 election or Jan 6th; slams 'massive disconnect' in DC

Rep. Andy Barr says voters don't care about 2020 election or Jan 6th; slams 'massive disconnect' in DC

Rep. Andy Barr, R-KY, says Democrats in Congress are out of touch with voters when they try to highlight the 2020 election and January 6th, saying DC has a "disconnect."

www.foxnews.com

Majority of Americans didn’t watch Jan. 6 panel’s hearings last week: poll

Majority of Americans didn’t watch Jan. 6 panel’s hearings last week: poll

Some 62% of Americans say they did not watch the panel’s second and third hearings held last week, but 58% say they have heard or read about them, a Politico/Morning Consult survey showed.

nypost.com

Democrats Went All In on the January 6 Hearings. Voters Don’t Seem to Care.

Elaine Luria dedicated herself to investigating January 6. Do her voters care?

In Luria’s Virginia district, you’d expect threats to democracy to resonate.

www.vox.com

The January 6 Hearings Are Not Going to Save Us

The January 6 Hearings Are Not Going to Save Us

Liberals don’t seem to have learned much from the failures of James Comey and Robert Mueller to take down Trump.

www.thenation.com

 

[DaggerDigwillow]

Concerning Jan 6th I think a reality check is needed.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Concerning Jan 6th I think a reality check is needed.

The committee is providing the reality check we needed regarding Trump's attempted coup.

 

[DaggerDigwillow]

"Deplorable" harkens back to Hillary and 2016. We are way past that. It's 2022 and I am not Hillary. Fervid Trump supporters are both ignorant and stupid; deplorable means something else. The percentage is up for debate. Clearly, you think 40% of the US population fits that category. Given your well known disdain for the US, I am surprised you are not celebrating what you see as its demise.

Having actually lived around Trump supporters for the last 7 years and seen how they behave and contribute to daily life in the US, I would venture that I know much better than you what they are like.

How wise, enlightened and tolerant.