This was "shadowdale". I respected and considered a good person (still do). I wouldn't read much at all into "waiting to see which country will be turned into the worlds largest parking lot." I'd consider that a very off-handed remark, not to be taken literally ... just a reference to the likelihood that the U.S. would be doing something about this later. And it doesn't even point to any specific country or group.
I would mostly agree except he said it was a good thing that Bush was President, suggesting the parking lot thing would be good.
Anyway, there's no need to make a post justifying or defending what was said in that thread. I ain't here to judge people for what they posted 20 years ago (though, yes, I am judging what they said
, I also do understand that people say things they don't mean in the heat of the moment)
I'm much more interested in the content
of the posts than in identifying who said what and determining whether they are a bad person or whatever. I think we can say now, fairly definitively, with 20 years of hindsight, that we badly botched the response to 9/11 and made almost all the wrong decisions. And that thread is, at least IMO, a good illustration of why that happened. Whatever else you can say about 9/11, it succeeded beautifully in provoking the US into enormous wastes of resources and lives.
Wow. How did as much as 14 above the planes survive?
This was in the South Tower, and as I recall only one of the four stairways was left intact by the plane crash. 9-1-1 operators were telling people not to try to descend through possibly dangerous areas on their own, which obviously turned out to be a tragic miscalculation - but then, not even bin Laden expected the towers to collapse the way they did. Those 14 basically survived because they took the initiative to escape, I don't remember whether they just didn't call 9-1-1 or if they chose not to take the operators' advice.
Famously, one of those 14
was the guy who saw the plane coming at the building from his office.
There were already multiple broken windows on top floors, another hole wouldn't make much difference.
I mean that helicopters could barely approach the building due to the massive heat and choking, toxic smoke rising from the raging fires.