Reminiscent of Cold War Days

[titanium]

My main enemy are the Aztecs. From start, he was the consistent #1. We shared the same land (together with English and French). He has tried so many times to take me out just like what he did to the English but I managed to advance my technology and weaken him with my Tanks and Mechanized Infantry. Now with my Modern Armor, I don't think he would dare to go near me again. Because of this, I have taken the second spot and overtaken Persia.

Now somewhere along the way (in the wee hours of the morning), I've made an Alliance with Persia against the Aztecs just to prevent them from ganging up on me. In return, I gave Persia some Uranium.

Since Persia was left untouched by my armies, he was able to build up his nuclear arsenal. He's got the same number of ICBMs as I do. Now, I really want to take the #1 spot, but not with Persia hanging on to a close second. He will surely grab any opportunity to dethrone me, in which case he will definitely use his ICBMs. But he knows that I will use mine as well.

Henceforth, the Cold War Days began.

I'm technologically advanced (even lauched my Spaceship already) but I haven't advanced yet to SDM. I'm a bit skeptical though, whether this would give me any clear advantage in the Nuclear Age.

I was planning to utilize Espionage (just like how the Americans took out Russia) by means of Economic Sabotage, but the Spy has very limited capabilities. (not to mention, way too high fees!)

Any tips out there on how to take out Persia by domination?

 

[daveonspeed]

Just a question? What difficulty level are you playing at? I have been playing civ2 since 1996 and civ 3 since it came out, but I haven't played at higher than warlord, because I always got my ass kicked... anyhow I have acheived miltary, space race, and cultural victories, but every time I always have to produce a massive nuclear stockpile just to fend off the strongest opponent when he attacks me to prevent me from winning. Everytime I nuke the crap out of him after establishing mutual protection pacts with all other nations ... I have never had an opponent with nuclear weapons, even though last time japan had the technology and ample uranium ... so i was just wonder which difficulty level you are playing at... i plan on starting my next game on the regent level and I am going to try for a domination victory ....


as for your question, in the first place, WHY DID YOU GIVE AN OPPONENT URANIUM ??? try money or anything other than the strategic resource that may just cause your demise! That prompts the question, did you have any other choice, if not I guess i can see why you did it. Last game I gave saltpeter to the Russians who were fairly week, and I had infantry so I had no use for the saltpeter. However Russia allied with Japan to try to stop my cultural victory (city of Babylon with 18500 culture points at the time, warlord difficulty) and his cavalry proved to be a royal pain. Mind you cavalry and nukes are different ...

I would suggest building the SDM, and a massive ground force, and use a spy to find out where the nukes are, then in a blitzkrieg take out the cities with a pre-emptive nuclear attack and following ground forces ... make sure you can do it all in one turn...

 

[Ouchgeddon]

Space Defense nets you a clear advantage in a nuclear showdown at high noon. If you trade nukes with someone you'll both end up behind the other civs, especially if all your combat units were killed by direct hit nukes. NEVER start war with a nuke! Start it manually, or bombard his area. Then pay for a global alliance against your foe, and no one will care if you nuke.

You'll probably have to finish him by ground force, but it's possible to knock his entire territory down to baby size cities, surrounded by poison. He'll take forever to build anything useful/dangerous. Of course, if you don't have Star Wars up and running you'll end up the same, instead of slightly annoyed by his one or two nukes that made it thru.

In my Monarch game, Germany got all the resources (Mother Earth favours him). And even weak, 2nd last place Rome had one little nuke to get melted by my space defense by 1850, long after my space launch.

 

[HVC]

I’ve been in your situation a couple of times, except I never trade away uranium under any circumstance. This is the strategy I use is:
1) Build up a sizeable land based strike force
2) Use a spy to discover where his nukes are (AI’s usually keep them in no more than three place)
3) Move my units to the cities with nukes, allow the civ to get angry and declare war.
4) Take the cities with the ICBM’s first and than the cities with tactical nukes

Since they have no more nuclear weapons they can’t attack you with them. Also this can double your nuclear arsenal in one turn.
P.S. be sure to rush temples so the cities don’t revert or you can use their own nukes against them:flamedevi .

Hope this helps

 

[titanium]

Originally posted by daveonspeed
Just a question? What difficulty level are you playing at? ...

as for your question, in the first place, WHY DID YOU GIVE AN OPPONENT URANIUM ??? try money or anything other than the strategic resource that may just cause your demise! That prompts the question, did you have any other choice, if not I guess i can see why you did it. ...

I am playing at Regent level. This was my very first game playing Civ3, though I'm a very experienced player for the Civ series. The resources do add a new flavor. And you're right - I had no other choice. After the Aztecs declared war on me, they immediately signed a Peace Treaty. It was only a matter of time until they gang up on me.

I actually had the same idea as you suggested. Prior to launching my Spaceship, I was gathering up a landing force just outside his cultural boundary consisting of a close-to-real-life strike force (4 Carriers, 6 Battleships, 6 Subsmarines, 4 Transports, 8 Tanks, 8 Mech. Infantry and 16 Marines).

Thanks.