"Research Agreement"

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by BothofUs, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. BothofUs

    BothofUs Chieftain

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    Just read this:
    http://well-of-souls.com/civ/civ5_civilizations.html#diplomacy

    Why would a leader want to stop the agreement for a research agreement if they've already paid a lump sum? I'm missing something here.

    This diplomacy choice seems like it could be very important in terms of rushing towards certain techs.
     
  2. Olleus

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    If you go to war with the other partner. If you signed it just to make them lose gold (you lose gold too, but might be able to afford it more than them). If relations between the both of you suddenly drop, say because they attacked a city state you're friendly with. Many possible reasons.

    The point of them is that they are a sign of friendship and mutual trust.
     
  3. Hammy

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    Maybe you want/need to go to war with the other nation, or maybe you realize that if you help them achieve this technology it will put them too close to the space race victory, or maybe you desperately need to get to work on a different technology ASAP (like a military technology to defend against a new aggressor.)

    I'm guessing the idea is that you wouldn't generally want to cancel a research pact, but that you'd also want to be careful about who you sign them with in the first place.

    edit: Beaten by a minute. :(

    edit2: Though actually, that says nothing about it specifically limiting what technology you're researching. I just assumed it was an agreement to both work on the same thing. So I could be somewhat off.
     
  4. stealth_nsk

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    Technologies are random (at least that's the last info by now). But with more or less equal costs for the same tier techs and without dead-ends in tech tree I found this acceptable.
     
  5. Schuesseled

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    there's been lots oif info on research agreements that conflict with each other, in truth we're still not 100% on what it actually does.
     
  6. stealth_nsk

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    What exactly conflicting info?
     
  7. GoodSarmatian

    GoodSarmatian Jokerfied Western Male

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    The first preveiws said research agreements provide a 15% bonus tor research points for both partnesr for 20 turns or so, the last ones said it provides a random tech after 20 or 30 turns.
    They probably just changed when they noticed 15% was too insignificant or didin't provide enough incentive to stay at peace for the entire duration of the agreement.
     
  8. Olleus

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    I dearly hope it doesn't just give you a random tech. What's the fun/strategy of not being to plan ahead?
     
  9. GeorgeOP

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    That doesn't sound like conflicting info. That sounds like adjustments made after play testing.
     
  10. ShaqFu

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    I wonder if it's possible to sign multiple agreements to one tech.
     
  11. stealth_nsk

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    Consider it a bonus to diplomacy, not some tech speed-up.
    I wonder what would appear if you're researching the only available tech?
     
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    You don't sign agreement to tech :)
     
  13. GoodSarmatian

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    I took a look at the tech tree and it doesn't seem like this scenartio is even possible before future tech.
     
  14. playshogi

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    I thought it was a way of turning gold into science with a diplomatic bonus. So, the research agreement just adds science to whatever you are researching at the moment.
     
  15. aajiix

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    Do both you and the civilization you are in research agreement with get the same technology (or bonus to research for the same technology)? If so, it would be interesting to know how it works if you have research agreements with multiple different civilizations.
     
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    No, each of you receive random technology. There could be no tech which both could research.
     
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    Hmm... Agree.
     
  18. Schuesseled

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    lots.

    some people have said it awards a random tech to each civ, some say a different random tech to each civ, some say same tech and not random, some say science boost to whatever is being researched, someone even said it gave a free GDR. (i made that last bit up. ;))
     
  19. BothofUs

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    Thanks for the conversation/info., everybody.
     
  20. GeoModder

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    Is it known if both partners in the agreement receive the same random tech, or each a different random tech?
     

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