Resource War

[Toast]

Do civilizations continue to have access to a strategic resource if your units are controlling the square?

My Greek civ is on a medium-sized continent alone with the Indians. Unfortunately, the island has no copper, and the Indians control both iron deposits. Hoping to wipe him out quick, I attack early with horse archers, and capture both iron deposits. One is under a city I now control, and the other is guarded by a fort. I take the fort quickly, moving a healer onto for use as a staging area.

Much to my surprise, the Indians continue to build spearmen despite my having taken away all his iron. I had previously scouted the area before it was inhabited, and I know for a fact that those are the only two iron deposits in this corner of the map. Do I have to pillage the iron to stop him? Is there a way for me to pillage the road without destroying the fort (which protects my my wounded units)?

 

[JujuLautre]

Do civilizations continue to have access to a strategic resource if your units are controlling the square?

Having units on a tile does not prevent from harvesting that ressource. So pillage, pillage, pillage !

Since roads are always the last pillages, you'll have to pillage the fort. And I'm not sure you can get benefits from a fort inside an opponent's cultural border anyway... to be checked.

 

[Solon70]

You may have been confused because having units on a tile will prevent the enemy city from WORKING that tile. However, as you know, a city does not need to work a strategic resource in order to use it; and thus, you need to pillage either the resource or the route in order to deny the city access to it.

 

[tycoonist]

how did i not know this???

 

[Krick19]

YOU ONLY NEED A ROAD? Dang, all those times I needed to hook up copper and had to wait the full 9 turns, instead of 3.

 

[DaveMcW]

Forts count as a mine...

 

[Bleys]

The AIs often build forts on resources that arent in any cities BFC, since it counts as whichever improvement required, and can be used for defense as well. Kinda smart, actually, I always build a farm/mine/plantation/whatever on all resources, even ones not in my BFC's.

 

[Toast]

Dang. It seems counterintuitive that a nation would be able to extract a resource while a hostile force is controlling that territory.

Ah, well. I wound up winning the prolonged fight with the Indians (about 30 turns). I'm pretty sure I'm now behind on technology, but I should be able to catch up now that my continent is secure.

The difficult part is to 'let' the other civs found Taoism and Islam, in order to keep them divided.

 

[Eldarion]

Much to my surprise, the Indians continue to build spearmen despite my having taken away all his iron. I had previously scouted the area before it was inhabited, and I know for a fact that those are the only two iron deposits in this corner of the map.

Spearmen only require copper. Maybe you took his iron but not his copper?

 

[Toast]

No, it was definitely iron. After taking over, I did find copper at the south pole, but this was not connected to their cities.