Results of the Greek Election today

How are your centrists clowns by the way? I am not familiar with your parties obviously - but if its true that they are clowns its a shame, Greece could really use a functioning centrist party
 
Out of curiosity, why is ND performing so much better than PASOK? Is it that they can rally the conservative opposition to Syriza, while PASOK is struggling because all left leaning voters went to Syriza? Are they seen as significantly more corrupt or more to blame for the current situation? Because to be honest from a distance I can't seem to see much of a difference between those two.
 
Out of curiosity, why is ND performing so much better than PASOK? Is it that they can rally the conservative opposition to Syriza, while PASOK is struggling because all left leaning voters went to Syriza? Are they seen as significantly more corrupt or more to blame for the current situation? Because to be honest from a distance I can't seem to see much of a difference between those two.

Well, it's perhaps a general European trend. In the Netherlands, the Pvda (the centre-left party) is extremely unpopular for its actions it has performed in government - as it currently a government party - and would be slaughtered in the elections if those were held now, with the SP (Comparable to Die Linke and Syriza) being the most popular explicitly Left-Wing party in the Netherlands. The PVV is also popular among ethnically Dutch ex-Pvda rank-and-file voters and despite being identified as 'Far-right' actually has a lot of ideological common ground with the former Democratic Socialists' 70 party, a PvdA offshoot that combined Left-wing economic ideas with a Pro-Western foreign policy and immigration reduction.
 
^Yes to both.
Basically Pasok is more collapsed than ND due to:

a) it is supposedly 'center-left', but no left/leftist cares for it anymore
b) (and more importantly) it actually has an even more sleazy history in gov than ND...

Both parties are still likely to just decompose, although ND is less at risk for that at the moment.

@Gucu: 'centrist' is something most parties self-present as, as with in other euro countries as well. And the 'union of centrists' in this parliament is a JOKE party run by a person who has serious mental issues. I don't doubt he may end in some foreign comedy segment sooner rather than later. He is a tv personality trying to be elected since... 1996!!! But he was helped in his campaign by the oligarch media (cause they run the serious risk to be made to pay tens of millions of euros in debt to the greek state).
 
^ 40% not voting is a record here (last larger such percentage was 35% iirc), however for elections in a Euro country it is far from unusual...

These aren't European elections, but national ones. And even the most fervent voters will get tired from 3 times of voting in 1 year.
 
^Yes, now actually have a look at that eurostat page you linked to, and check the actual election turnout for recent years. /facepalm...
Hint: just because one country (eg Belgium) had a 89% turnout this does not mean it is realistic to claim the average if many countries had a vote now would be 68%...
 
Actually, it would Mr Facepalm. You see, the countries having a lower than average turn out are generally small. It seems reading is more difficult than writing for some.

Cheers.
 
Actually, it would Mr Facepalm. You see, the countries having a lower than average turn out are generally small. It seems reading is more difficult than writing for some.

Cheers.

True mr uber-facepalm. Case in point 10 million people Belgium, and 65 million people UK with a tad less than 89% vote-turnout. Or Bulgaria in your page and Belgium, both having similar populations but a little difference in vote turnout.

Why do you even post if you just are to antagonise? Won't bother more :wavey:
 
So by my maths 225 actions total of which 15 must be enforced = 6.6%
Must be done within 1 months time that is left, seems very very low bar for Greece.

And Greece appointing a fascist as minister of infrastructure and transport is off to a good start.
/faceplam

“Within three months, 56.4% of the measures, or 127 actions, have to be taken of which 15 have to be enforced in October.”

In the coming weeks the hugely sensitive issues of pensions cuts, tax increases on farmers, recapitalization of banks, privatization of state assets and liberalization of closed markets must all be tackled.

Europe has warned openly that there can be no second chance for Athens – the nation’s exit from the eurozone will beckon if commitments are not respected.

Within hours of being sworn in, the appointment of the Anel MP Dimitris Kammenos as deputy minister of infrastructure and transport was causing waves in and outside Greece.The lawmaker, who is better known for his antisemitic views

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ras-led-greek-government-takes-power#comments
 
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