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Return of the Shadow: The War of the Ring

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Completed Scenarios' started by Lord Malbeth, Jun 12, 2009.

  1. Lord Malbeth

    Lord Malbeth Chieftain

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    Oh, opps, that was a mistake on my part! Sorry. :blush: HeHe, well, I normally find that Rohan has a hard time fighting Saruman. I'll play-test it a little more and see what I get.
     
  2. nick0515

    nick0515 Dad, Librarian, Writer & GNU/Linux User

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    Started a new Gondor game last night. Only had time to play for about half an hour but it seems like the patch has balanced them well. Smashed the Witch King Early on with Faramir but managed to get Frodo killed so I'll probably start again. Just doesn't feel right to return the ring with another unit.

    Cheers

    Nick
     
  3. Lord Malbeth

    Lord Malbeth Chieftain

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    Why not return the ring with Sam? :p

    OK, now that I have some free time this summer, I'll try to tweak this scenario a bit. Are there any parts that just BLOW and need to drastically be fixed?
     
  4. krwhitinglaw

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    I downloaded and played several games. It ends very quickly when I don't play either Gondor or Mordor. One or the other wins the game without my civlization really being involved within a few turns of the start unless I play one of them. Has anyone else noticed this problem? Regards,

    Kelly Whiting
     
  5. Nimitz96

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    it doesnt work for me I keep getting an error message saying

    COULDNT FIND TEXT PEDIAICONS IRON_CRAFTING
     
  6. tom2050

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    When you download and unzip the file, you need to make sure that the folder 'warofthering' is the one in the Civ 3/Conquests/Scenarios folder. This folder is inside of the folder 'The War of the Ring Civ III' folder that is created after you unzip the file.

    When the game can't find the pediaicons entry for a building, this is usually always the issue.
     
  7. Nimitz96

    Nimitz96 Chieftain

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    so its
    CivIII
    Conquests
    Scenario
    War of the RingIII
    warofthering

    Right?

    EDIT: I tried it and it still came up with the same error, is the download eating up some of the files?
     
  8. tom2050

    tom2050 Chieftain

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    No, it should be like this:
    CivIII
    Conquests
    Scenario
    warofthering

    You should be able to just copy warofthering and paste it into Scenario directory, and all should work.
     
  9. Nimitz96

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    AH! that might work thanks alot!
     
  10. Nimitz96

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    IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    it looks great! THANKS SOOO much for all the advice, and especially for the scenario its self!
     
  11. Lord Malbeth

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    Hope you like it!

    Is there any more feedback on this?
     
  12. pvincent100

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    Yeah - this is awesome - how is that for feedback.....
     
  13. Lord Malbeth

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    ^ Love it!
     
  14. Evercast

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    Leave it to SOPA to ruin your day. Download don't work.
     
  15. attackfighter

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    This mod is nice, but it has some MAJOR balance issues. These are some of the issues I came across while playing as Isengard:

    1. Riders of Rohan are way too powerful. They come at the start of the game with three movement (!!!), 5 attack and 3 defence. There is nothing Isengard has to compete with that. The best attack rating I have access to is 3 and the best defence I can get is 2. Nevermind the insane movement speed. The worst thing about this is that the RoR aren't even that expensive compared to my units...

    2. Every Ent unit. Huourns have 3 speed, ignore movement cost for all terrain and have 4 attack and 4 defence. Ents themselves have 2 movement (which ignores terrain penalty of course) 8 attack,4 defence and they enslave enemies, turning them into Huourns. Oh and they both have a strong bombard and a health bonus. This is just crazy - the Ents could attack and destroy Isengard on turn one with their starting units if they wanted. In fact these guys are just so ridiculously over-the-top, they could probably destroy every other faction in the game without producing a single unit.

    3. Rangers. Invisible units with better stats than I anything I can make. Again, they are present at the start of the game and again they aren't even all that expensive. They basically wittle down my forces due to attrition, since I can't even use artillery on them to even the odds.

    4. Insane production of my enemies. Rohan has 6 cities with a combined population higher than my own. So basically they can build more stuff than me. Combined with their insanely high unit stats and efficiency, this puts me at a severe disadvantage both in terms of quality AND quantity (which is really dumb since in the lore Isengard is meant to have numerical the advantage on their side).

    5. Insane number of enemy factions. At the beginning of the game I find myself swamped by Arnor, the Shire and Rohan. Later on the Ents and Elves pile on as well. And there are no competent allies nearby to help me out. So basically it's 5:1 and my enemies all have better units and production than me...

    6. It's too easy for Isengard to starve. 90% of it's food comes from 3 tiles, all of which are within 2-3 tiles distance of my borders. This means that a Rider of Rohan for example is able to reach any of these tiles in one turns movement and block off a third of my food supply, which inevitably causes starvation. And don't underestimate the effects of starvation - it causes me to lose any production on the turn in which it happened, and considering that nearly all of my production is centralized in Isengard this could paralyze me indefinitely if the enemy is smart/lucky..

    Basically all of these balance issues place me into a situation in which I can't win. I did come up with a strategy in which I was able to survive a very long time, however the constant attrition from fighting vastly superior enemy forces meant that I was doomed to die a slow death no matter what I did. Also the One Ring mechanic is flawed, since Frodo (or whatever invisible unit was carrying the ring) constantly suicided himself against me in almost all of the games I played.
     
  16. r16

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    am interested , now that ı am personally trying to mod the LOTM as well , but the download from the first page seems broken for the moment .
     
  17. Maimonides

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    The download isn't broken. It's been seized by the Feds...



    No joke.

    Can anybody upload this mod somewhere that isn't federally indicted?
     
  18. r16

    r16 not deity

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    ı saw that the second time ı tried , yet ı second the upload request , am really in a mood for Lord of the Rings stuff .
     
  19. attackfighter

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    damn the USA federal government... why can't it just tyrannize it's own people and leave the internet alone?
     
  20. r16

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    feds aren't that bad , copyrights stuff must be respected and they the site owners were apparently beyond redemption , still would like an upload , especially ı had thought of downloading it before and preferred some other thing .
     

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