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We might see the fall of three wonders today. Who will be our Herostratus?
Returning Wonders-Elimination Thread
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Angkor Wat 28
Borobudur 26
Himeji Castle 18 + 1 = 19 My reasons have been given previously, this is simply beautiful and unique.
Notre-Dame 22
Shwedagon Paya 2 - 3 = -1 Eliminated. Very beautiful, unique and impressive. But it is the wonder of Southeast Asia less important on the list.
Statue of Zeus 1
Taj Mahal 31
Temple of Artemis 3
Borobudur 26
Himeji Castle 18 + 1 = 19 My reasons have been given previously, this is simply beautiful and unique.
Notre-Dame 22
Shwedagon Paya 2 - 3 = -1 Eliminated. Very beautiful, unique and impressive. But it is the wonder of Southeast Asia less important on the list.
Statue of Zeus 1
Taj Mahal 31
Temple of Artemis 3
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Angkor Wat 28
Borobudur 26
Himeji Castle 18+1=19 Gotta have something for Japan.
Notre-Dame 22
Statue of Zeus 1
Taj Mahal 31
Temple of Artemis 3-3=0 I guess I'm the Herostratus over here, but it is part of the seven wonders of the world and it's appearance in the game is almost a given.
Borobudur 26
Himeji Castle 18+1=19 Gotta have something for Japan.
Notre-Dame 22
Statue of Zeus 1
Taj Mahal 31
Temple of Artemis 3-3=0 I guess I'm the Herostratus over here, but it is part of the seven wonders of the world and it's appearance in the game is almost a given.
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@Roman Citizen Shwedagon Paya has already been eliminated and Himeji Castle has 19 points, please correct your votes
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Angkor Wat 28
Borobudur 26
Himeji Castle 19
Notre-Dame 22
Statue of Zeus 1 - 3 = ELIMINATED He may be the God of Kings, but I'm the real one!
Taj Mahal 31 + 1 = 32 Every Civ must have this wonder
Borobudur 26
Himeji Castle 19
Notre-Dame 22
Statue of Zeus 1 - 3 = ELIMINATED He may be the God of Kings, but I'm the real one!
Taj Mahal 31 + 1 = 32 Every Civ must have this wonder
Angkor Wat 28
Borobudur 27 (26+1) I think everything has been said.
Himeji Castle 19
Notre-Dame 22
Taj Mahal 29 (32-3) leveling the playing field. I really want this wonder, but I want the others as well, so I try to make it a bit more even.
Borobudur 27 (26+1) I think everything has been said.
Himeji Castle 19
Notre-Dame 22
Taj Mahal 29 (32-3) leveling the playing field. I really want this wonder, but I want the others as well, so I try to make it a bit more even.
Angkor Wat 28
Borobudur 24 (27 - 3) -- I'd say every wonder here has earned its place, but of those left this one interests me least.
Himeji Castle 19
Nôtre Dame 23 (22 + 1) -- I agree that there are more beautiful Gothic cathedrals, but I can't think of any that are so iconic--and we can't have too many of them. I'd also like to see Nôtre Dame de Reims, Westminster Abbey, Canterbury Cathedral (where folk longen to gone on pilgrimages whan that Aprille with his shours soote the droghte of March hath pierced to roote...), Cologne Cathedral, the Mezquite...
Taj Mahal 29
Borobudur 24 (27 - 3) -- I'd say every wonder here has earned its place, but of those left this one interests me least.
Himeji Castle 19
Nôtre Dame 23 (22 + 1) -- I agree that there are more beautiful Gothic cathedrals, but I can't think of any that are so iconic--and we can't have too many of them. I'd also like to see Nôtre Dame de Reims, Westminster Abbey, Canterbury Cathedral (where folk longen to gone on pilgrimages whan that Aprille with his shours soote the droghte of March hath pierced to roote...), Cologne Cathedral, the Mezquite...
Taj Mahal 29
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Angkor Wat 28
Borobudur 21
Himeji Castle 19
Nôtre Dame 23 - 3 = 20 (Bah. How many Gothic cathedrals do we need in an already Eurocentric game? How dull this one is too, we've seen it in every Civ game pretty much.)
Taj Mahal 30 + 1 = 31 (Too iconic to exclude, and why it's not in the base game is a mystery. The story behind this wonder's creation alone is worthy of interest, leaving aside its magnificent beauty.)
Borobudur 21
Himeji Castle 19
Nôtre Dame 23 - 3 = 20 (Bah. How many Gothic cathedrals do we need in an already Eurocentric game? How dull this one is too, we've seen it in every Civ game pretty much.)
Taj Mahal 30 + 1 = 31 (Too iconic to exclude, and why it's not in the base game is a mystery. The story behind this wonder's creation alone is worthy of interest, leaving aside its magnificent beauty.)
@Morningcalm Yes, Nôtre Dame would seriously clash with all zero other Gothic cathedrals* currently in game. 
Also, I don't see what a preponderance of European civs (which tends less towards overrepresentation of Europe than underrepresentation of the rest of the world, anyway) has to do with wonders...That being said, if you can convince Firaxis to include a less iconic but more splendid exemplar like Westminster Abbey, Canterbury Cathedral, or Nôtre Dame de Reims, I'm all for that; in the meantime, I'll take Nôtre Dame de Paris.
*Yes, there is currently one Gothic monastery in game, but Mt. St. Michel is hardly typical of Gothic ecclesiastical architecture.
Also, I don't see what a preponderance of European civs (which tends less towards overrepresentation of Europe than underrepresentation of the rest of the world, anyway) has to do with wonders...That being said, if you can convince Firaxis to include a less iconic but more splendid exemplar like Westminster Abbey, Canterbury Cathedral, or Nôtre Dame de Reims, I'm all for that; in the meantime, I'll take Nôtre Dame de Paris.*Yes, there is currently one Gothic monastery in game, but Mt. St. Michel is hardly typical of Gothic ecclesiastical architecture.
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Angkor Wat 29 (28 +1) The world's largest temple complex seems like a very good choice.
Borobudur 21
Himeji Castle 16 (19 - 3) Again, the upvotes for this have been predominately because the game doesn't have any Japanese wonders. This may be true, but neither does it have any Cambodian wonders, or Indonesian wonders, or Incan wonders, or Polish, Scythian, Norwegian or Kongolese wonders. Geographical and cultural diversity is important, but two of the other top 5 wonders, and plenty of those already eliminated, would also be unique to their region or culture.
Nôtre Dame 20
Taj Mahal 31
Borobudur 21
Himeji Castle 16 (19 - 3) Again, the upvotes for this have been predominately because the game doesn't have any Japanese wonders. This may be true, but neither does it have any Cambodian wonders, or Indonesian wonders, or Incan wonders, or Polish, Scythian, Norwegian or Kongolese wonders. Geographical and cultural diversity is important, but two of the other top 5 wonders, and plenty of those already eliminated, would also be unique to their region or culture.
Nôtre Dame 20
Taj Mahal 31
Angkor Wat 29
Borobudur 21
Himeji Castle 16+1=17 - I want every single one of these wonders. They are all great choices. But Himeji isn't just some Japanese wonder. It's incredibly beautiful Japanese wonder!
Nôtre Dame 20
Taj Mahal 31-3=28 - You must be opposed. I can't let you win without fight.
Borobudur 21
Himeji Castle 16+1=17 - I want every single one of these wonders. They are all great choices. But Himeji isn't just some Japanese wonder. It's incredibly beautiful Japanese wonder!
Nôtre Dame 20
Taj Mahal 31-3=28 - You must be opposed. I can't let you win without fight.
Angkor Wat 29
Borobudur 21
Himeji Castle 17+1=18- I want every single one of these wonders. They are all great choices. But Himeji isn't just some Japanese wonder. It's incredibly beautiful Japanese wonder!
Nôtre Dame 20-3=17 lesser than all the rest
Taj Mahal 28
Borobudur 21
Himeji Castle 17+1=18- I want every single one of these wonders. They are all great choices. But Himeji isn't just some Japanese wonder. It's incredibly beautiful Japanese wonder!
Nôtre Dame 20-3=17 lesser than all the rest
Taj Mahal 28
Angkor Wat 29
Borobudur 21
Himeji Castle 18 + 1 = 19 Well, for starters, Japan is a staple of base game like Greece, China, America, France...and Japan is the only staple that not have a wonder represented in the game. It is shameful, since Japan that it is so important not to have at least one wonder that represents it and there are many good names to think of wonders in Japan, not only the Himeji Castle. And yes, I want wonders from all over the world, this includes Cambodia, Incas, Indonesia, Poland, Norway and many other places and if we know of something, for Scythian and Kongo as well. My desire to have Japanese structures does not exclude the desire to have other places. And about Himeji Castle, this is a fascinating Eastern castle, very beautiful and visually unique.
Nôtre Dame 17 - 3 = 14 I really want it in the game, I love Gothic architecture and Notre-Dame is my favorite French wonder after the Eiffel Tower, but it falls a bit on my priority list now. France already has two wonders in the game while Southeast Asia and Japan have none, and Taj Mahal...well...Taj Mahal is a big exception, simply because it is perhaps the most impressive structure in the world.
Taj Mahal 28
Borobudur 21
Himeji Castle 18 + 1 = 19 Well, for starters, Japan is a staple of base game like Greece, China, America, France...and Japan is the only staple that not have a wonder represented in the game. It is shameful, since Japan that it is so important not to have at least one wonder that represents it and there are many good names to think of wonders in Japan, not only the Himeji Castle. And yes, I want wonders from all over the world, this includes Cambodia, Incas, Indonesia, Poland, Norway and many other places and if we know of something, for Scythian and Kongo as well. My desire to have Japanese structures does not exclude the desire to have other places. And about Himeji Castle, this is a fascinating Eastern castle, very beautiful and visually unique.
Nôtre Dame 17 - 3 = 14 I really want it in the game, I love Gothic architecture and Notre-Dame is my favorite French wonder after the Eiffel Tower, but it falls a bit on my priority list now. France already has two wonders in the game while Southeast Asia and Japan have none, and Taj Mahal...well...Taj Mahal is a big exception, simply because it is perhaps the most impressive structure in the world.
Taj Mahal 28
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Angkor Wat 30 (29+1) Largest temple complex, and more or less the only one that is not dwarfed by Egyptian temples...
Borobudur 18
Himeji Castle 16 (19-3) I'd say do a cycle and include one of the other two great castles.
Nôtre Dame 15
Taj Mahal 28
Borobudur 18
Himeji Castle 16 (19-3) I'd say do a cycle and include one of the other two great castles.
Nôtre Dame 15
Taj Mahal 28
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