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[RFC Marathon] Realpolitik America

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Stories & Tales' started by ilduce349, May 9, 2010.

  1. ilduce349

    ilduce349 (Financial, Philo)

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    Based on the realpolitik game currently going on, I think we should do the same thing, but instead of starting from the beginning, start with a civilization that already has democracy. When america spawns their is 250 years left, meaning their will be around 25 elections. (10 yeares 2 an election) Here is the rules, copied and pasted from the other realpolitik game:
    Here are the rules:

    - I as host reserve the right to veto any action any player wishes to undertake: To consolidate the stability of the AAR, to stop interference with the normal functioning of the thread or simply because I feel like it. Don't mess with The Man.

    - Rule #1 of Realpolitik: Democracy is absolute. Even when the Nazis or communists are elected into office, they will still have to answer to the opposition and face elections every 10 years.

    - Any member is free to establish or join a political party of his choice. A member can only be member of one party at a time, although he is free to switch allegiance whenever he sees fit.

    - Try to keep the roleplaying to a minimum - Given the short length of this AAR I am going to ask everyone to refrain from inventing characters and to use their own nicknames at all times when playing. This is to avoid confusion.

    - Every 10 game years an election shall be held, the first election will be in about one week. During the week, I'll grant the right to all parties to organize, unite and campaign to get as many people as they can to vote. Note that everyone registered on the CivFanatics forums is eligible to vote.

    - Parties are allowed to form coalitions. At the end of an election, all votes are tallied and the party or coalition with the largest % of votes wins the election.

    - The parties that did not win will be sent to opposition, where they can comment on the policy of the leading faction. I will monitor opposition closely, and the leading players have to understand that failing to appease the public will lead to us penalizing America in-game (improvement deletion, raised unhappiness). It is therefore very important to listen to the public, who can demand re-elections as well.

    - If the opposition is strong enough, they can call for a General Strike, a Vote of No Confidence, or if things get REALLY ugly, an Armed Revolution,

    - An independent(non-party) can run for any position save that of the President of the Republic. To run for office, simply state as much in the thread.

    - Every reader (including players) has three votes in the elections. Putting all three votes for a single party is not allowed. However, if parties want to play it smart they'll seek coalition with a like-minded party so players can put all three votes into their front. These numbers are not finalized, if an election is taking to much time, I could give people the opportunity the add a 4th vote to reduce the time of the election.

    - The host (Me, IlDuce) retains full rights to ban any party that has violated these rules. Spamming parties, parties using a complaint generator, parties inciting hate or parties that are found obtrusive for the normal functioning of this thread will be banned from the elections indefinitely.

    - Please refrain from PMing me for every Realpolitik-related issue. Alternatives are using the profile visitor comments, or simple commenting in the thread.

    -A rule I would like 2 add, the max number of voters will be the number of citizens in America in game.

    - By voting, joining a party or performing any other form of interaction with this AAR, you declare that you have read and understood these rules to the letter. I don't want to be a jerk guys, so keep it clean!

    That about sums it up. I'll reserve one post after this for the party listing and one after that for the ruling entities/election status, then feel free to post parties or go independent and simply comment.

    and here is the link 2 that game

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=362995


    Administrations:

    Current: Dangerbird Administration

    Opposition Strength Gauge:

    Current: Moderate Leader: None (Saneperson and WIM need to decide)

    - Insignificant

    - Weak

    - Minor

    - Moderate

    - Noticeable

    - Fairly Strong

    - Strong

    - Dangerous

    - Murderous

    Opposition Actions:

    Call for Reelection - Action that any player can take. Calls on the President to hold a reelection. I may step in depending on the circumstances, however, for one side or the other.

    General Strike - Basic action. Must be declared in thread by opposition leader. Based on the strength of the opposition, a certain number of cities will be selected for coin flips. Heads=get off scat-free. Tails=all production shut down. Number of cities depends on opposition strength.

    Vote of No Confidence - Advanced action. Must be called for in thread by opposition leader. If enough players support the motion, anarchy descends upon the nation until the vote is repealed.

    Sabotage - Basic action. May destroy a random province improvement. To perform, ANY party leader must PM me with the target city and improvement(or leave it up to me) and I will flip a coin for odds of success. If it fails, I flip a coin again to decide if the President discovers evidence leading back to the instigator of the action.

    Call for Desertion - Advanced action. Opposition leader must announce the call in the thread. Some units may or may not be disbanded. Number of units depends on opposition strength.

    Armed Revolution - VERY advanced action. Must be declared in thread by opposition leader. Every player who wishes to participate for either side PMs me with this information:

    - Allegiance (Government or Rebels)
    - A unit type they wish to raise (Era applicable, please)
    - Four promotions (in order of priority) for their unit to receive.
    - Name of ship (if a naval unit, otherwise, unit will be called ______'s Company).

    The leaders (President and Opposition Leader) will be represented by a regiment with a Great General attached.

    Then I will use worldbuilder to create a small, flat-world map where the fighting will take place and add in the two armies. Me and my brother/sister (whoever feels like helping me) shall then duke it out over LAN, and you will be provided with every turn updates on the fight.

    Armed Revolution Concepts:

    The Republican Guards/The Foreign Legions:

    The Guards or the Legions will provide extra strength to the Government or the Rebels, respectively, in the event that the battle is upset enough that one side needs reinforcements to bring the outcome back into question. Note that there is a limit to what the Guards/Legions can do to affect the numbers.

    Government Actions:

    Martial Law - Advanced action. All opposition actions except Armed Revolution are made impossible. Elections are not suspended, however. Is in effect until repealed, even if the President who ordered it is not the one who repeals it. That's right - it transcends elections.


    Please sign up with a party name and party goals, exactly like the other one

    ty
    Duce

    Current Parties:

    Confederate Party of the United States
    Center-Left
    moderately left-wing organization built around the virtues of the Southern aristocrat - generosity, politeness, and a stiff upper lip.
    Favorite Civic: Vassalage
    Founder: Lighthearter
    Leader: Resident UK
    Other members: Cull

    Boston Tea Party
    Really Right Wing
    Right-Wing Nationalists who support low taxes (which means high science/culture/espionage sliders), but specific emphasis on Conquest and the military. Also hates Arabs because we need their oil, and the irresponsible failure of the cramming of Jews into Israel makes us hate Arabia more for some reason. (A change from my pacifist ways in the original Realpolitik!) Also, we hate the poor but love the rich, and worship George Bush (Both of them) and Ronald Reagan. Also very religious. They want to call a Jihad on all nations with Buddhist views (which unless Persia/Mongolia are is no country at all). In other words almost exactly like the republican party
    Favorite Civic: Nationhood
    Founder: West india man
    Other Members: Domination3000

    International Socialist Party of the Americas
    Really Left Wing
    We believe that we are the revolution, and as such, we must take the revolution to other countries (go kick some ass), to liberate the proletariat from their bonds (expand). We're fine with any government, but we prefer strong ones (HR and US). State Property is a must, however. We aren't militant atheists, but we see religion as more of a tool than an actual belief.
    Favorite Civic: State Property
    Founder: Mechaerik

    American Hegemony Party
    Really Right wing
    The AHP's main objective is 2 take revenge on our previous oppressors and obliterate them. They focus mainly on Military and Production and dream that one day all of Europe will be American owned. Military and Production are the main goals.
    Favorite Civic: Nationhood
    Founder: SanePerson
    Other Members: Conquerer500
    Aysee

    Survivalist American Movement
    Right wing
    Believing strongly in the Manifest destiny, they believe that America should be isolated, owning the entire continent and then ignoring the rest of the world. They are a happy, democratic, moderate capitalist party, who believe America should be American, and should not interfere in European problems, prioritizing science and production.
    Favorite Civic: Free Market
    Founder: Micbic
    Leader: NOONE
    Other members: DangerBird
    BurnEmDown
    Duke of Awsome

    The True Republican Party Of America
    Right Wing
    We believe in a military focused strategy, but with a fair bit of science and cultural values. The army and navy will be required to defend our lands from our former king, and once we research the nessacry technology, air power is a must to destroy the enemy. Manifest destiny is also our main point of refernce. We will need to harvest the entire continents resources to make the world safe for democracy!
    Favorite Civic: ???
    Founder: Arya
    Jayw

    The histories:
    Part 1
    Part 2
    Part 3
     
  2. ilduce349

    ilduce349 (Financial, Philo)

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    1784 Election (modified for 35 seats)
    Leading Party:SAM 11 (7)
    Leading Opposition: AHP 8 (5)
    Other Parties: Con 8 (5)
    BTP 6 (4)
    Insop 2 (1)
    Central Coalition (SAM + Con) 19
    Conservative Coalition (BTP + AHP) 14

    1794 Election
    SAM 18/42
    BTP 6/42
    CPU 6/42
    AHP 6/42
    Insop 3/42
    TRP 3/42

    Conservative Coalition (BTP + AHP) 12/42
    Central Coalition (SAM + Con) 24/42
    All Others 6/42

    1804 Election (57 possible votes)
    TRP 19
    BTP 14
    AHP 12
    INSOP 9
    Con 3

    Conservative Coalition (BTP + AHP) 26
    United Coalition (TRP + Insop+Con) 31

    Current Cabinet
    President: DangerBird

    VP: Lighthearter

    Military Advisor: Burnemdown

    Domestic Advisor: ???

    Foreign Advisor: Micbic. His foreign policy is simple, isolationism, it is very likely that no alliances or major trades will be made.

    Economic Advisor: Lighthearter
     
  3. west india man

    west india man Immortal

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    You may want to change the colours in the opposition strength, adminsistration etc
     
  4. Lighthearter

    Lighthearter President of the United States

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    And I'm not the host - but I'm rooting for you! Hmmm . . .

    The Confederate Party of the United States

    The Confederate Party is a moderately left-wing organization built around the virtues of the Southern aristocrat - generosity, politeness, and a stiff upper lip. Remember, when you go to the polls - vote CPUS!

    Oh, and Nukeknockout isn't your brother - how will you handle Armed Revolutions?

    - Lighthearter
     
  5. Cull

    Cull Big Daddy

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    I wish to join CPUS.
     
  6. west india man

    west india man Immortal

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    The Boston Tea Party - Right-Wing Nationalists who support low taxes (which means high science/culture/espionage sliders), but specific emphasis on Conquest and the military. Also hates Arabs because we need their oil, and the irresponsible failure of the cramming of Jews into Israel makes us hate Arabia more for some reason. (A change from my pacifist ways in the original Realpolitik!) Also, we hate the poor but love the rich, and worship George Bush (Both of them) and Ronald Reagan.

    EDIT: Also extremist Christians (DIE HEATHENS!!!!!)
     
  7. ilduce349

    ilduce349 (Financial, Philo)

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    I welcome ur party, and my bad, i changed 2 of ur names, but seems i missed those 2
     
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    ilduce349 (Financial, Philo)

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    K, so I just created the game, and now I have to wait the 3 hour projected time (Thats right, I am starting from 3000 bc) Just 2 make things clear, I will be using the map I created for realism based off of RFC, so if u notice they added uranium in Alberta/Scandinavia, Oil in Middle East/Alaska Coal in Australia/China, Fish in Japan, ect then thats y. also 4 my RFC their is a little bug known as early wars. Basicilly, every Civ starts off at war with 2 neighbors, Greece at war with Rome and Babylon, Rome at war with Greece and Carthage, China at war with Mongolia and Japan, America starts at war with England and Spain. This bug can affect the game.

    Edit One thing I forgot to mention. I switched off time victory, meaning the game will go on until a real victory happens. Could make the game more interesting.
     
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    ilduce349 (Financial, Philo)

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    for those who want to create a party/join an existing please sign up soon, u can create ur party and any time in the game and run in the next election, but I would like more parties early on.
     
  10. mechaerik

    mechaerik Tuturuu!

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    I would like to found Insopamerica (stands for International Socialist Party of the Americas). We are a far left party.

    We believe that we are the revolution, and as such, we must take the revolution to other countries (go kick some ass), to liberate the proletariat from their bonds (expand). We're fine with any government, but we prefer strong ones (HR and US). State Property is a must, however. We aren't militant atheists, but we see religion as more of a tool than an actual belief.
     
  11. SanePerson

    SanePerson Warlord

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    I would like to found the American Hegemony party. Basically, we will take England and some of Europe by the end. And we've got to have the middle east. We also vote to elect a dictator-expect lots of declarations of martial law and switches to HR and later PS. Military and production are our main goals.
     
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    micbic Optimistic Pessimist

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    Founding Survivalist American Movement (SAM)
    Our agenda revolves around two dogmas
    i) No European Colonies in North Americas
    ii) No American Interference in other parts of the world

    In other terms, we are a happy, democratic, moderate capitalist party, who believe America should be American, and should not interfere in European problems, prioritizing science and production.

    Civic wise, we like US, Slavery and Nationhood (these two early on), Emancipation, FM and FR, and hate HR, SP and Theo. Most preferred civic; Free Market.
     
  13. ilduce349

    ilduce349 (Financial, Philo)

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    For the people who have founded a party, please tell me the parties favorite civic
     
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    ilduce349 (Financial, Philo)

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    K, Important news, Washington was founded and Islam spread to the country, so West India Man, unfourtunatly u might have to change ur view a little:
    extreme Muslims (all infidels die)

    Christianity is just 2% of the world, with no holy city.
     
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    ilduce349 (Financial, Philo)

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    Part 1: Declaration of Independence
    During the 1400's France and Britain started colonizing North America, a continent with allot of unexplored territory. 300 years later, A group of rebels would try to destroy these two super powers. In 1746, Prince Robert was born as a prince of England, the world power at the time, when he was 9 his father, dissatisfied with his wife beheaded her. It was because of this that he renounced his title. He was exiled from his homeland and move to Rome where he would live as a child to Benito Duce, a roman lord. He was renamed Il, and typical Roman name. Eventually his new father moved to England. Il Duce was forced to join the army. Due to his fathers rank he started as a Captain. He quickly moved through the ranks in Britians many was against the natives of America, vastly expanding British finding the city of Edmonton. The natives surrendered in 1772. In 1773, King George III came to power, due to the economic crisis facing Britain, he raised taxes in America. This allowed Il Duce to strike, gathering allies from the common people.



    In 1775 Major-General Il Duce Declared war on Britain, promising to destroy the evil monarchy. In 1776, the people in New York and Boston both revolted joining Il Duce's Cause (I Lost 2 rifleman trying to take New York, the next turn the city flipped).

    In 1777, Under agreement with the King of France St. Augustine Joined America. The king died that year, and his son demanded the land back, Il Duce refused.

    Spoiler :


    In 1779 Halifax and Fort Alanby both surrendered to Il Duce. However King George III still refused peace

    Spoiler :


    After Capturing Ft Alanby, Il Duce went back to Washington where he wrote the American constitution
    (Civic Changes US and Emancipation just because it was giving me 7 unhappiness in every city)

    I am worried, I have less techs then the Aztecs (they have corporations and everything I have)

    In 1783 England agreed to make peace with America in exchange for fort Albany.
    In 1784 America had its first election.
     

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    west india man Immortal

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    Favorite civics of the Tea Party are Nationalism and Theocracy
     
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    ilduce349 (Financial, Philo)

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    K, the election has just started, feel free 2 vote
     
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    ilduce349 (Financial, Philo)

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    The Polls close on May 14th
     
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    mechaerik Tuturuu!

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    I vote for the International Socialist Party of the Americas (also known as Insopamerica).
     
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    west india man Immortal

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    The Tea Parties views are changed to hate whatever religion Arabia is then. (Or Turkey if it doesn't exist anymore). If they are muslim, we hate Buddhism.
     

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