So my attempt to make a later start sort of snowballed and I am now pleased to announce a new project I have decided to undertake. RFI (Rhyes and Fall of Imperialism).
The plan would be a new calendar, modified tech tree and altered Civs, but on the old map. This would thus be a much easier project than RFC:E was as most of the work is already done.
I figured we could have 3 starts to make most use out of the later start system that BTS allows. One at the begging of the Colonial Era with Spain and Portugal just set out to colonise, one later on when the other European powers join the race and another after most land has been gathered to provide a launch to the modern era.
Someone suggested in the old thread that 1450 might be a better start than 1500 as the Iberian nations wouldn't have colonies so that makes the first start quite an easy one.
I think based on rather limited research that 1660 would be another good start date based mostly on this picture. It shows the Iberian Civs as already established but the other Europeans seem to have just started their Colonial Empires. The situation in India seems particularly interesting as any one of the four Civs with cities there could end up acquiring it.
The final start should be in the late 19th Century shortly before the Crimean War. This would give the feel of 3 potential superpowers along with the option of playing a definite underdog. Also, all the Civs would be available from the start, here allowing people who want to play as later Civs like Germany to not have to wait.
I would also like to mention the 'Ex-Colonies Civs' which I thought would start off as vassals of whoever owned the most cities in their flip zone when they appeared.
So in terms of making it I figured that I would do so and learn how to code to do it, however as this would be my first big venture I would really appreciate it if an experienced coder would agree to help me by explaining things the tutorials don't, and checking stuff to see whats wrong. Also, as much as I am interested in history I would not say that this period covers my field of expertise and as such would like research experts and busy bodies to post on this thread about historical innaccuracies, gameplay tips, things they want to see and any other thoughts remotely related to the topic at hand. In particular, when planning the cities for the 17th century start (see attached picture) I came at a loss on what cities would be best for Russia and the Far East. Tips on that and corrected placement for other Civs would be useful.
On a final note with this thread comes a poll asking about what Civs you think should be in the game. I didn't include obvious ones (like Russia or France), so please vote for each of the Civs in the list you would like to see in the mod, but bear in mind that each Civ comes with a price (stability, turn times, available colonising space and hard work putting them into the mod).
Thanks for reading, I know it's a long post.
EDIT;
Below are the final list of civs. Please help us develope them on here, or discuss more general aspects of the mod on this thread.
The plan would be a new calendar, modified tech tree and altered Civs, but on the old map. This would thus be a much easier project than RFC:E was as most of the work is already done.
I figured we could have 3 starts to make most use out of the later start system that BTS allows. One at the begging of the Colonial Era with Spain and Portugal just set out to colonise, one later on when the other European powers join the race and another after most land has been gathered to provide a launch to the modern era.
Someone suggested in the old thread that 1450 might be a better start than 1500 as the Iberian nations wouldn't have colonies so that makes the first start quite an easy one.
I think based on rather limited research that 1660 would be another good start date based mostly on this picture. It shows the Iberian Civs as already established but the other Europeans seem to have just started their Colonial Empires. The situation in India seems particularly interesting as any one of the four Civs with cities there could end up acquiring it.
The final start should be in the late 19th Century shortly before the Crimean War. This would give the feel of 3 potential superpowers along with the option of playing a definite underdog. Also, all the Civs would be available from the start, here allowing people who want to play as later Civs like Germany to not have to wait.
I would also like to mention the 'Ex-Colonies Civs' which I thought would start off as vassals of whoever owned the most cities in their flip zone when they appeared.
So in terms of making it I figured that I would do so and learn how to code to do it, however as this would be my first big venture I would really appreciate it if an experienced coder would agree to help me by explaining things the tutorials don't, and checking stuff to see whats wrong. Also, as much as I am interested in history I would not say that this period covers my field of expertise and as such would like research experts and busy bodies to post on this thread about historical innaccuracies, gameplay tips, things they want to see and any other thoughts remotely related to the topic at hand. In particular, when planning the cities for the 17th century start (see attached picture) I came at a loss on what cities would be best for Russia and the Far East. Tips on that and corrected placement for other Civs would be useful.
On a final note with this thread comes a poll asking about what Civs you think should be in the game. I didn't include obvious ones (like Russia or France), so please vote for each of the Civs in the list you would like to see in the mod, but bear in mind that each Civ comes with a price (stability, turn times, available colonising space and hard work putting them into the mod).
Thanks for reading, I know it's a long post.
EDIT;
Below are the final list of civs. Please help us develope them on here, or discuss more general aspects of the mod on this thread.
Spoiler :
China (Ming)
Spain
France
Britain
Netherlands
Russia
Portugal
Turkey
Austria
Persia - 1500
Mexico - 1521, 1821
Peru - 1542, 1824
Brazil - 1549, 1822
Japan - 1603
Sweden - 1611
China (Qing) - 1644
USA - 1776
Italy - 1814
Australia - 1856, 1986
India - 1858,, 1947
Canada - 1867, 1931
Germany - 1868
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Natives
Independents 1
Independents 2
China Rebels
CSA
Aztec (needed for conquistador event)
Inca (needed for conquistador event)
Spain
France
Britain
Netherlands
Russia
Portugal
Turkey
Austria
Persia - 1500
Mexico - 1521, 1821
Peru - 1542, 1824
Brazil - 1549, 1822
Japan - 1603
Sweden - 1611
China (Qing) - 1644
USA - 1776
Italy - 1814
Australia - 1856, 1986
India - 1858,, 1947
Canada - 1867, 1931
Germany - 1868
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Natives
Independents 1
Independents 2
China Rebels
CSA
Aztec (needed for conquistador event)
Inca (needed for conquistador event)