Discussion in 'Civ4 - Rhye's and Fall of Civilization' started by Edungeon, Jun 15, 2007.
I second that question.
it does work, pretty well. You'll see.
I'm not answering any other question, I'm sorry.
Without enlarged Europe, the European Civs will have 2 or 3 cities. Even if they are given large bonuses to their development, still, the area which was historically very important, the area where fierce wars were fought, will be only the small area from which the Europeans will send ships to colonize, and nothing more. Thus, it will be really unimportant in the late game, when the Europeans will really develop their colonies.
Or maybe I am understanding something wrong. Maybe the whole map will be bigger or something.
Wow, this is my 500th post!
I've actually had no problems with the 2 new civs in Europe. If you remember, they're meant to be 1 city civs, which balances Spain and Germany with England and France. Currently, Spain/Germany can grab/settle more tiles than England/France.
This sounds freakin' awesome, with like giant lasers.
"why? There was no Greece in 600AD"
There was no France when ruled Charlemagne, and there was no Germany when existed Holy Roman Empire (...of the German Nation).
In RFC terms Rome was unstable and Greece resurrected (OK- it wasn't called "Greece" but I don't think that you'll include GB as another non playable civ because it is called differently than England ).
I have faith that the scenario is reasonably historically accurate, and well-balanced. We just don't know what kind of great ideas they've come up with, and we'll just have to wait and see what they are. I know this is going to be a great scenario.
Luko, if the Byzantine Empire is in BTS anyway, it makes more sense to use them in 600 AD than Greece.
Oh, can someone make a article in the wiki with this information? i don't know how to format in the "wiki style"
Byzantium is unplayable. And there can be Greece and Byzantium at the same time :/
Remember, don't forget Poland. It may be one of the 2 remaining civs
I don't think so- too many people don't like it
The last 2 civs will make y'all very happy.
I probably said too much already .
I'm never happy. And the only civ I really want is Italy (which is way more important than Poland, we just happen to have some pretty powerful ancestors...)
Ethiopia and Vietnam? Maybe?
And for so long now in reading the reports of Beyond the Sword I was thinking to myself "How will Rhye incorporate all these new civs? How will he do it? Europe is already crowded as it is! The Byzantines!!? The HRE?!? How will he add them all?!?!"
The answer is: He won't. And very wisely so.
You know, despite all the suggestions and critiques I and others may have, I have never encountered a mod that has so much of that I want in a Civ game as this one does. It is by far the best mod I have ever played and I actually use this as my default game when I play Civ. Rhye you have thoroughly impressed me!
Whatever the new civs are, just PLEASE no more Euro civs!!
It's already crowded enough as is, and we have more than ample representation of that admittedly important area of the world. A SE Asian Civ MUST be put in the game. If not, China will be the sleeper civ of the game; while Europe is in a bloodbath or financing expensive colonies and unless someone really dominated the Middle East, more of the same is happening there, India is generally weak and the Americas/Africa usually backwards, China has virtually all of the East Asian lands from the Mongolian border to Singapore uncontested.
I'm typically not one to get too excited about the prospect of a civ coming or going in the game as they do "generally" get it right but I think the game, especially a world map game , will be thrown off balance without another East Asian civ to keep China in check.
Hope Firaxis does the right thing here.
I won't be happy without Poland so no everybody will be happy
Italy is more important if you count it when it wasn't united too. Or you count Rhye as a Italian Great Person. Or if you forgot about Italian army
I think that as only united it's still more important, but you're definitely right on the army
Thank you very much! Related to what you said, I have another surprise that I'll reveal soon
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