CaptainF
The Professional Poster
This is why I think the current business model of the music industry will collapse and rebuild itself to move into the 21st century.
RIAA redefining piracy: Rip your own CD? You're a thief!
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bob bobato
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They have every right to-you own your copy of the songs, not the songs themselves. So of course you can't copy them. Then again, this law will be a complete waste of paper since so many people ignore copyright anyway, on the internet, without being punished, or even noticed.
But I wonder how they'll enforce this. Random raids on everyone who owns a CD?
But I wonder how they'll enforce this. Random raids on everyone who owns a CD?
Legal precedent disagrees with you. I think the doctrine is called "Fair Use" and it allows for making copies of such things for personal use.
edit: It might not be Fair Use, but I'm 99% sure there's legal precedent here. TO THE GOOGLEMOBILE!
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
Shane,
You're entirely right. Precedent has been set with cassette tapes, VCR, and DVR recordings. All in legal challenges. As your expert googling showed, even they knew this back in the day.
You're entirely right. Precedent has been set with cassette tapes, VCR, and DVR recordings. All in legal challenges. As your expert googling showed, even they knew this back in the day.
Strider
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Legal precedent disagrees with you. I think the doctrine is called "Fair Use" and it allows for making copies of such things for personal use.
edit: It might not be Fair Use, but I'm 99% sure there's legal precedent here. TO THE GOOGLEMOBILE!
Your looking for the "U.S. Digital Millennium Copyright Act."
bob bobato
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But seriously though, how will they enforce this?
Tabasco Sauce
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No offense, but some 49 y/o parent doesn't care about legal precedent when you get a deal to either pay $2000 in fines, or face a suit for thousands more.
Strider
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Keep doing what they do most likely. Keep suing people to use as "examples." They probably said this just for they *can* sue people. Hoping they might make more money off of it.
Otherwise.. they have no way of enforcing it.
TBH, I don't expect them to try and enforce this. There's nothing to enforce, they have no legal ground to stand on. I think their motivation is just to misinform and "scare" people even further away from downloading music illegally.
I'm mostly just shocked that they'd trot out this "new" logic which is clearly not legally valid when all it can do is turn the public even more against them.
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
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I bought an album, then a cassette, then a CD. Don't see a problem with having to buy again if I want the conveniences that a CD player can't provide.
Trajan12
Deity
This is a good thing. Such desperate bluffing is a sure sign of coming demise. The final large gasp of air from the dying beast.
nivi
Call me Ishmael
The RIAA is old and tired, it is the last remnant of a dying generation, it will also die in due time, and thank goodness for that.
azzaman333
meh
The more they try an make me feel bad about downloading music, the more I will do it.
BasketCase
Username sez it all
I say printed media sets a precedent contrary to the RIAA's position.
It's perfectly legal to copy printed media. What is not legal is copying someone else's printed text and then selling it for profit.
In any case, the RIAA's position defeats the entire purpose of computers, iPods, and technology in general--which is to easily and quickly MOVE information. You have to be able to move--and, yes, copy--stuff around for modern technology to even have a purpose. So screw the RIAA.
It's perfectly legal to copy printed media. What is not legal is copying someone else's printed text and then selling it for profit.
In any case, the RIAA's position defeats the entire purpose of computers, iPods, and technology in general--which is to easily and quickly MOVE information. You have to be able to move--and, yes, copy--stuff around for modern technology to even have a purpose. So screw the RIAA.
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
No offence, but the RIAA's claim is clearly against federal law and therefore would never stand up in court.
AL_DA_GREAT
amour absinthe révolution
If theyt continue to be so "extreme" in their views they will never be able to get the public to back them. The record industry has to realise that they are losing the piracy dispute and that they have to start compromising.
innonimatu
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Of course it is, if someone is listening you may be engaging in an unauthorized performance of a copyrighted work! You thief!!!
For an idea of the full insanity of your country's copyright law, unfortunately exported worldwide, I recommend this little paper, Infringement Nation
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CIVPhilzilla
Reagan Republican
Let's see the RIAA already has a ton of people that hate them, they already have a very strict set of guidelines that they have nowhere near the resources to find, try, and prosecute people; yet the redefine the guidelines to alienate more people, face bigger opponents (Apple, Microsoft), and make it even more impossible to go after "violators". RIAA you just gave yourself the kiss of death, you were dying a slow and painful death, but it looks like you wanted to go out with a bang. I say good riddens.
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