RIAA redefining piracy: Rip your own CD? You're a thief!

I studied this in an assignment for my University course last year...so I might actully have something productive to say...

Most of the music industry is still operating on a business plan dating back to around 1970. Man hears music on radio -> man goes into store -> man buys CD/Tape/LP -> man listens to it at home.

The argument against the whole music downloading was the same that they used against CD burners (late 90's) and Tape Recorders (late 70's). It does not help the fact that their costs are far too high, more money per CD goes to the manufacturer of the jewel case than the artist, mass advertising and 'comping' music jurnos makes the prices soar and transportation costs are hideious ('specally in places like Europe) Stores like Wal-Mart, Tesco and their ilk are killing the sales end - they only stock massive-sellers, and they use their bulk-buying power to squeeze every penny discount from the label. As in the past they used their massive 'hits' to subidise their other operations. If they can't do this anymore, they are ultimatly doomed, unless they change their business plan...

One of the things that piss the labels off (and me suspects one of the true reasons for this pathetic 'ban') is that there is not going to be a true sucessor to the CD in a hard copy - this is what capitalism requires in 'mature' markets (such like N. America & W. Europe) In the past, damage, wear & tear and obselecence of media (Cassete Tapes, LP's etc) meant that the older hits (albums from people like Elvis, The Beatles, Pink Floyd, etc) would constantly sell at a fair clip. This is the ultimate 'cash cow' (no costs to record or promote - just make and ship!) and this has been killed by the era of Media Players and iPods. People can buy one digital copy of an album, and it can last forever! (When I buy a new CD, I instantly copy it to my PC, make a CD-R hard copy and put the original away in storage) Barring acts of God or stupidity (fire, etc) I will never need to buy a copy again. Ever. In the 90's, I bought at least two dozen replacement copies of broken CD's.

This rule will piss off the minority of young consumers who actully still somewhat respect their business (like myself) but are of the 'Napster' or 'YouTube' generations. They are behaving exactly like King Canute & the Sea on this one....and they will perish.

Music is too expensive for most people to buy. Yes, the labels will say to me - there are many albums for sale in your nation (UK) for as little as £8.00! Yes, there are. They are of identikit pop pap or of runner's up of this year's Crap Idol - spewing from the shelves of Tesco, Asda and Woolworths. If you love real music (In this I mean anything from Rock to Classical) and you are after a CD which is not of the biggest three in the genre and their new release, you will be looking at £12, or £15 or even £18! I don't want to have to pay £20 for say, for a CD from 1995 AND have to wait 3 weeks for the bleeding store to get it from their warehouse (True Story) I've long given up looking in real music stores because what I want they don't have and what they have that I like I allready own.

When they gave up fighting against music downloading, they priced their downloads at the exact same price as their hard copy. That is stupid.

Here is my solution. We take all the record industry managers, put them in burlap bags, fill said bags with stones, and chuck them in the sea. It's the industry's only hope. :)
 
Tesco is like Wal-Mart! Hmm . . . that adds some context to "Still walk to the laundress / still shop at Tesco / still walk the streets with my hat low".

And you guys still have Woolworths? I don't even think we have them in the United States anymore.

Oh, and I agree with what Mr Fusty said. Except for the mass murder part at the end. :)

Cleo
 
Tesco is a sign to the Yanks that we Brits can produce our own all-crushing corperations of our own! We also have Wal-Mart, in the thin guise of Asda, but it's just not as good. It's not called Anglo-Saxon capitalism for nothing!

Our Woolworths were seperated from it's US parent in the late 80's. - So when the US one went under, the UK one was fine. Either that or we are living in the 80's. I'm going to go now and play my Amiga 1200 and perhaps listen to some Paul Newman....

I belive that the record managers are allready braindead - therefore it's wont be murder :)
 
RIAA is destined to fail and collapse anyway. Nowadays, I only buy CD's when I need to give a present or something. All of my music is coming straight from the internet.
 
Not if it continues to get the support of your government.

Like 60% + of all media (CD's, PC games, etc) in here is illegal / pirate. The government doesn't care. Even if they did, they can't stop the will of the people. As long as the industry keeps charging such ridiculous prices for software / music, piracy is going to keep rising.
 
Not if it continues to get the support of your government.

The government of tomorrow will be made up of the youth of today. And younger people don't care much for the RIAA/MAPP.

So their government support wont last for long.
 
Record Companies, like Movie Makers and Game Developers, may actully want people like BirraImperial to use pirated software. I heard from a friend in Thailand that that ratio is around 80%-90% illigal. Twice a year, he comes to visit me in the UK, with a small crate of DVD's, CD's, CD-Roms and suchlike. All pirates, so good that you can't even tell from the packaging! He says it pays for his flights. (Disclaimer - this scenario is hypothetical, yes? ;) )

What the industries think....(I suspect)

There are 4 main markets for the above media. Their home market covers all their costs. The others are pure profit. If they really wanted to crush the pirates out of nations such as Thailand, Brazil etc they would have to drop their prices to such a degree that cross-border importation would become so tempting (ie Media avalible for $3 each in Brazil being shipped on-masse to Portugul, where it is valued to $25 each) This is completly legal!!!

Yes, you will say - but the reigional-block outs! If, say in the UK were having a large amount of cheap, legal media from, say South Africa, the DVD players and PC hacks will be in the second wave. My own DVD player allready has said hack.

I believe that their plan is to just keep the rich nation's piracy down to a minimum, keep people like my Thai friend out, and make sure that cross-border importation to the bare minimum.

The government of tomorrow will be made up of the youth of today. And younger people don't care much for the RIAA/MAPP.

So their government support wont last for long.

Call me a cynical ol' bastard - but the youth of WWI committed the carnage of WWII. The youth of the Summer of Love (1968) committed follys such as the War In Iraq. The generation of parents who enjoyed childhood freedom now won't allow this for their own children. The generations of youth who railed against stupid laws now enjoy making and upholding the same laws.

It's amazing how a large amount of radicals become very conservitive when they gain a Volvo, a semi in the suburbs, the corner office and the actual power to change the world for the better.
 
I don't download, because it seems wrong and my parents woud kill me. But everytime I see the . .. .. .. . the RIAA is trying to pull want to download every song under the sky in hopes it will hurt these bastards in some small way...

May the RIAA rot in hell:satan:
 
So, nc-1701, if the goverment made Trek illegal, your parents would hand you over to the police?

:lol:

No, and they wouldn't hand me over if I illegally downloaded either. They would however get mad at me, because they don't want me getting in truble with the police.

I'de also get a speech about how the cops wouldn't know I was the one doing it and how I could get them in trouble or what not... In the end it ends up just being easier to pay for my music:)
 
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