[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

So now English Wikipedia is getting weird again. Featured picture is earrings from the Silla Kingdom (Korea). Also on this Day mentions the Ottomans again for two days in a row.

 

I'm hoping to see some details about the loyalty system and the emergencies. Also, I believe (though I'm not sure) that some of the base game civs are going to be reworked, so that their bonuses are in line with the new features of the expansion. I hope they will say something about this as well.

 

https://twitter.com/CivGame/status/950781887785533440

They haven't said anything about it since though.

 

I expect they will release more details sometime in the next 6 hours or so. You know, when you're asleep.

 

We also don't know what dedication bonuses are available for the Information era.

 

Bring it! I’m totally down for Shaka. Braveheart however...

It’s practically the only Civ I play when available. Phillip II is insufficient.

Lydians created the concept of wholesale trade, which is how they were able to gain enormous wealth. The Ottomans inherited that from the Iron Age success of Lydians. It’s said bazaars originated in Persia, though it was Lydia with the money at the time. I’m still game for Lydia because it is an Iron Age civ, none are represented so far in the released list so far.

The exorbitant wealth of Lydia & newfound attraction of precious metals is attributed to the lack of imagination in Hellenic architecture during this era, as they were more focused on gems, jewlery & monuments. I think a UA for Lydia could be an early ability to convert gold into production for wonders. They weren’t much for warfare, typically played defense (which, Lydia’s incredibly famed stepped city walls would fit, as many of its cities emulated it.. unique building? Doubtful..).

They were renowned merchants, weavers, & manufacturers who gave gold to other Greek city-states to battle each other instead of focusing on them. They’re also credited for giving lavish gifts to the Oracle of Delphi which in turn heightened its status as an authority. Ironically, it was the Oracle who predicted Lydia’s demise.

This is a good link for Sardis, the capital, if you want more info on Lydian daily life: http://sardisexpedition.org/en/essays/latw-cahill-city-of-sardis

I’d be fine with Panama or Suez Canal as a wonder. It shouldn’t be available for any civ.

 

A friendly reminder that we have only twenty-nine days to the release.

Btw. We still have no Civ from South America and Africa revealed. If there isn't the Inca Empire in R&F, there will be riots

 

Probably there will be some if the next ones aren't the Ottomans or any from Africa (not counting the Zulu) as well.

 

I'm standing by my prediction. Inca, Ottomans, Mali, Georgia.

 

Might I also point out in the gladiator scene the girl’s father is wearing an Attic Chaldician helmet, attributed origins to Thrace & Ionia. The ones with hinged cheek pieces are believed to be Thracian or Ionian.

 

They will play as Chandra India and will discuss about Governor. I try to create new thread for its discussion

 

Do you have a link? I haven't seen it on Twitter yet.

 

It was announced as a Facebook event:
https://www.facebook.com/events/160154254608561

 

Bizarre that they haven't put anything on Twitter about it yet.

 

Yes, I had to dig for the announcement, too. Usually, I see it on Twitter first.

 

I'm (mostly) standing firm on Ottomans, Italy, Inca.

I'm actually worrying about Ottomans and thinking that might become Zulu. Because apparently we need another warmongering civ.

 

Just tweeted it out here! We're going to try Thursday livestreams for the next few weeks. Hope you can all tune in!

 

Hopefully if they do bring the Zulu they do something interesting with them beyond just melee unit bonuses, even if it's just a military alliance lua or something. Shaka did do a decent but of alliance building and diplomacy (at least per Wikipedia)!

Otoh The one brightside to the Zulu is that, ala 5, they'll hopefully get bonuses that might make them a passable tactical threat in the AI hands.