I still like your original idea of having the large cities not doing the share for the defence of the empire Hum? Civil war has a tile penalty! And city should suffer under a civil war! I need to learn from you experience again Randy In (my) theory, the diocese are not going obsolete until the barb reach a tech (which doesnt work, will be changed). They require, to be built, the presence of a Diocletian reform in the city, which indeed does go obsolete with time. This mean (I hope) that you can build diocese in the cities with the reform built, and that obviously until that reform become obsolete itself. But by then, the built dioceses stay in function until later. Right? 18 shields a turn would give you *slowly counting* the palace (300 shields) in about 15 turns! Price will be reduced. With all your praetorium and diocese still fine, it might sounds too much, but with these buildings obsolete, a communal government would be the last chance to rule the empire as a whole. Once the west is history, you should get back to a more centralized type of government. I would prefer to reduce some other stat of the Christian government, like unit free support You never met any disruptore or incursore, did you ? Great job all!