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Rise of Classical Empires

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  1. Terrance888

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    The Hill before the Chasm
    Long time ago, my sons, there lies great kings and many chiefs. Darali, warriors of the North. Are war-like but merciful. They have great kingdoms propped up by man chiefs. As their power Rose their enemy, the Daras, the Great Enemy, their power grew. At the end of the Great age the chiefdoms in the Land known as "Europe". Then, from the East, horseriders driven from their homes by the fierce Wisthal swarmed the land. The Horan, Yural and other peoples are pushed into the land furture West. As they attacked wave after wave of those looking for new homes attacked the Darali Kingdoms, then, they crumbled into legend as the Wisthal themselves are driven from their homes and came to Europe. There, kingdoms are shattered. And small chiefdoms rule the land.

    To the South the peoples of the Nile fought for many years, but a large forces, driven by the breaching of the Great Oasis. Attacked them all. In the Chaos they are razed, their people live on. But they are suppresed.

    To the north. The Great Shamandom of Chunherra survived. As they grew, more and more they affect the outside world. However, more and more the outside world affects them. A King of a Citystates assassinated a Shaman of Chunherra. Pertenders rent the kindom as the City states are destroyed for the Unifying force of Chunherra is know gone. Shamans rule over patches of land as they fought for scraps.

    Today, my friends, is a new age. You will lead your tribes to greatness! Today, Classical Empire that will affect history forever shall rise!

    This day is 500 From the Chasm. Today, my friends, shall affect destiny!

    Rules (Cp'n Pasted from Reclaim the World). They are different this time around.

    Spoiler :
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    I) Getting Started
    When we first start out, we are in the smoking remains of great past within story and memory. When signing up, all you need is the name of your country, a color, a location on the map for your capital, and filling out of the Stats. The kingdom or nation will be the small plot of land surrounding the capital. This is a blank map of the World Since this is a story-telling-based game, we would recommend a history of your kingdom up to this point, and a flag would be excellent too.

    When creating your stories, remember that the past kingdoms are recorded in ruins and in stories. They whisper of the power of the past, while brag of their future strength.

    I should probably add: When you choose your color, do not choose any whites, light grays, blacks, or light blues. The whites are too close to the blank terrain, grays are for barbarians, blacks are too close to the border colors, and light blues too close to water.

    II) The Turn

    The turn is the basic unit of in-game time, and lasts from the previous update until the GMs declare that the turn is over, usually when all orders are in (See section III for details). If not everyone hands in their orders, the turn ends after 48 hours. During each turn, you sort out diplomacy and trades between other countries, and you work out agreements. However, anything you say here does not have to be truthful. Only your orders are what matter. Also, PMs can be made between players to deal with these matters. These also do not require any truth. To maintain this, we ask that PMs received by a GM not be quoted in any PMs between players.

    III) Orders

    Within a given period from the previous update, you must PM your orders to one of your GMs. Orders are lists of where you want to spend your money, what projects you want to make, where you want your troops to go, where you want to expand, etc. If you fail to send orders in a timely manner, your country will be automated for the turn. Missing multiple orders, without warning me in advance, may make your country an NPC, meaning that they are fully automated and open to anyone else to join. Also, when filling out orders, please include your stats.

    A) Economy + Infrastructure

    Your nation's economy is determined in Gold Per Turn (GPT). This is your nation's income per turn. This income is what you will use to improve your nation, either by building cities, researching technology, or building your army and navy. You can also bank your gold for spending at a future date, but it will not accumulate interest until a specific tech is introduced by me and researched. Also note your GPT will naturally rise over time due to inflation. If your GPT is in between 1 and 50, it takes 3 turns for it to rise by one. From 50 to 75, it will raise by one every 5 turns. Various technologies will and events may give Civilizations a boost.
    - If you research various Techs you can gain Infranstructure from a project. However, it will be made sure that it isn't overwhelming.

    B) Resources
    I must think on this


    C) Great People. Yes, like in Civ, we now have great people. After a particularly great turn, you may receive a great person, who will bring his expertise to help you, be it a great strategist or an innovator in the likes of Einstein and Leonardo Da Vinci.

    D) Military

    Your military is divided into army and navy, and each is rated by an arbitrary number that rates your country relative to the others. For every 1 gold you invest here you get 1 military point. The more military power you have, the higher the chance that you will win. However, upsets can happen, and the better military may not always win. Additionally, certain techs you can research will give you military multipliers. Also, for every 5 military you have, whether it’s army or navy, you lose 1 gpt in maintenance.
    There will also be a Military Cap, which will be raised by various techs and government types. At first, the Cap will be set at 30 total Units. (land, sea, and river)

    In the beginning, the people are miltia who fight for you off season. You have 20 no maintenance units.

    E) War details

    When you are at war with someone, you PM in your orders a minimum of how many units of military you want to send and where you want to send them. If you want to, you can be more detailed, and you will probably get better results. When you capture a city, it will be in revolt. Since cities do not make units, all this means is that you don’t get its base 2 gpt for 1 turn. In this turn, you can do three things: You can do nothing, which makes Charles Li (the official War GM) flip a coin. Heads, it comes out of rebellion. Tails, it stays in for another turn. Or, you can Raze the city, erasing it from the face of the earth and adding an instant amount of gold (determined by the age you are in) to your banked gold. The last option is to Pacify the citizens, spending an amount of gold that is determined by your era to make it instantly come out of revolt.

    F) Technology

    The Dual GMs will pick one or two advances made in any, assign it a tech value, and open it up for everyone. You can then use Tech Points, bought at 1 gold per point, to purchase these advances. They may give economic benefits, enable further expansion, discover new resources, provide military multipliers, or really anything that technology has done for man. Some, not many, technologies will be exclusive. This means that only one or two nations can research them, and once researched they can be traded. Mostly these exclusive techs will be sent via a private PM, to preserve secrecy. And remember, you cannot trade a tech that you do not have! Trades are only recognized if you send them to both the person you’re trading with and your assigned GM, and if you lie about a tech, you will receive a penalty. Some Unique techs will be Untradeable.

    G) Special Projects

    Projects were a big part of the RfMK, and they will still be important. Think of something that actually makes sense, like diverting gold for a massive blitzkrieg or a boost in research, and we’ll assign it a monetary value. Additionally, you can suggest a unique technology (again, that makes sense) for your nation. If it gets approved, it will be assigned a Tech Point value and effect and will act like any other exclusive tech.

    Some projects also needs turn time to complete, such as breeding of animals efforts and some projects known as Wonders. So big that multiple generations worked on them before they are completed.

    H) Cities
    There are some projects that came up multiple times, and have been made into things you can spend money on. The first of these are cities. Give a name and location, you get a city on the map that adds 2 gpt to your economy. They also hold the land and make it with less rebelion, while themselves as a magnet for them. Cities cost 5 gold for the first two, and for every two after the cost increases by 5. However, if the city is lost, the gpt bonus transfers away. There is a city cap that increases with time. Currently only a small group of tribes join under your banner. So only 3 Cities can be controled.


    I) Expansion and Attack

    If there is empty land next to your country, or within reach by sea, you can order expansion to that area. This incorporates this area into your country, as long as the request is not excessive. Expansion is limited by the technology you have researched, and may be severely limited in the beginning. Larger nations also have lower stability (See section H for info on this). Also, you can make attacks with your military. Simply say where you want to attack and with how much power, and we will set up the attack. You can tell us more (the method of transport, perhaps some tactics) and you will get better results, but you don’t have to. Defenders can also include in their orders strategies for defense and will have better results. It’s probably worth mentioning, too, that you CAN make surprise attacks (without declaring war), but you will recieve a penalty as a result. It's still worth doing, however.

    J) Trade and Diplomacy Orders

    When you’ve finished making arrangements with other players, you must give the orders to fulfill your part of the trade in your orders. For instance, if you are going to trade 7 tech to get 21 gold, you must say “I give 7 tech to this country” in your orders. Same goes for any other diplomatic action. In trades, the items that are traded, excluding projects, grow by 10%, rounded up. This means that if you give 4 power, the receiver receives 4.4 power, which is rounded up to 5. Technology is special when traded, because you don’t actually lose it when you trade it. It’s sort of like the flame of a candle – you can spread it without losing it. However, be careful- once a nation knows a technology, they can never unlearn it. Other diplomatic actions like treaties, alliances, and for that matter trades will be limited by tech level but are largely left up to the players’ imaginations.

    K) Stability

    No nation is totally stable. Several things affect your stability- your ratio of military to population (cities), your governmental types, whether you’re at war or not, the size of your empire, and various random events all have a hand in it. Your stability will be kept a secret from other nations! It will not be posted on the main stat page, but if you ask your GM for it you will receive a PM with information. Stability is ranked between 0 and 50. The higher you are, the more stable. Each nation starts at a stability of 40. Instability carries several negative effects. You have a higher chance of cities rebelling and forming their own nations, you can suffer diplomatic penalties from other NPCs, and if you have any unique technologies they are likely to be leaked by malcontents.

    L) Government type

    Government types carry pros and cons. Every system has its strengths and weaknesses. In the beginning you will be restricted to a few basic types, but as time progresses you can PM era-appropriate governments you want to switch to and, if approved, they will be implemented for all to use. In the start you are restricted to:
    Monarchy of Chiefs (Most Darali)
    + 1 Technology + Expansion - 1 Economy - 5 Stability =Military

    Shamandom (Chunherra)
    - 1 Technology + Expansion + 1 Economy + 5 Stability = Military

    Warrior State (Mexicans?)
    = Technology + Expansion = Economy - 5 Stabliliy + Military


    Generic

    Chiefdom
    = Technology - Expansion = Economy - 5 Stability +Military

    Tribal Council
    = Technology = Expansion = Economy + 5 Stability -Military

    Republic
    +Technology =Expansion +1 Economy = Stability -Military
    As time goes on and more people invent new governments in their PMs, new forms of government will be available.

    M) Stories

    The more detailed you are in your orders, the more successful you will be. If two nations clash that are absolutely equal in power, the one who is more descriptive wins. Remember, we GMs are people too, and we like reading good stories, so naturally we will want to keep the storytellers alive, right?

    Likewise, Stories written in the thread may give benefits.


    Link to inspiration Threads.
    ChuckNES
    While We Wait


    I perhaps needs another GM to help me, perhaps not.

    Don't post unless confirmed GM.
     
  2. Terrance888

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    Stlll under construction. New GMs must PM me if they want to.


    Here shall be updates and Maps!

    Here shall be stats!


    Here shall be Techs!

    Any discussion in the WWW... thread. Thanks! Also tell me if I need an another GM or not.
    Remember, map is of before the crisis and 'First Dark Ages'. New cultures are Gustavics, horsemen form the Urals, Teutons are a mix of Darali and Erin Tribesmen.
    Spoiler Generic names of cultures. :

    Tashia/: South France/Spain
    - Portia : Po River Italy.
    Havian: North France/Lowlands/North Germany
    -Salas Havian: North France
    -Savian: North Germany
    -Loricia: Danubian River
    Gern: England
    Yural: Central Europe
    - Horan : Greece
    Rishii: North of Greece
    Erin: Scandinvania
    Wisthal: Urals
    RiZhen: North China/Korea
    Guan: South east asia/ China/ Islands
    Hattyui: Asia Minor
    Hapiz: Indus
    Dibutian: India
    Farz: West Africa
    Lorckia: South Africa
    Revil: Nile
    -Lora
    -Horviz
    -Thenbei
    Ervih: Mesopotamia
    -Servih
    -Orhiv
    -- Tabrian
    - Jothilheim
    Aryia: Persia
    -Mizura

    Tuzia: Artic America
    Genwiv: California
    Red Fox: Wood Land America
    Talxical: Mexico
    -Toltuloc Central America
    -Zulotux: West Coast Central
    Yuluvi: Migration: Mexico
    Havicial: Amazon
    Izan: Andes


    Spoiler Darali names for other cultures :

    Tashia= Farli (means roughly Far People): South France/Spain
    Havian= Daras (means Great Enemy) =: North France/Lowlands/North Germany
    Gern= Alakli (Sea People): England
    Yural= Farli (again. The Darali recycle names quite often. When they know people better they wil get a more unquie name.): Central Europe
    Erin= Norli ( Northen People): Scandinvania
     
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    Terrance888 Discord Reigns

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    That's it, Love, either you delete that with a MOD you are a GM!

    Dam you. :(

    PLEASE POST IN WWW UNTIL THIS THREAD IS READY!

    Technologies?


    Technology Advancement Technologies

    Alphabet Less things to remember, they represent sounds so more can learn it and continue discovery: 7 TP +1TTP
    -Needs Writing
    Economy Advancement Technologies
    Better Agriculture Better seeds means more produce: 5 TP +1Gpt
    Military Advancement Technologies
    Copper A metal that need to be beaten to be smelted: 4 TP + Military with Copper
    -Needs Gold Smelting
    Bronze A Harder metal that shines and doesn't rust: 5 TP + Military with Copper and Tin
    -Needs Copper Smelting
    Structures Advancements Technologies
    Masonary Shaping rocks:3 TP Can build Basic Walls, Forts and Quarries
    - Needs Mathmatics
    Mining Mining resources:3 TP Can build Mines + 1GPT
    Specials Advancements Technologies
    Writing, wonderful stuff, makes it easier to record discoveries and trade: 6 TP +1 TPT + 1 GPT
    Gold Smelting Beat a Yellow Metal into Jewlery: 4 TP +1 Gold Per Trade
    Projects Technologies
    Arches Can build small arches: 10 TP
    - Needs mansonary
    Mathmatics Can build Projects: 5 TP
    - Needs Writing
     
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    Terrance888 Discord Reigns

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    I've got all my posts. You may post.
    Template:
    Nation/Player
    (City Income)/(Infranstructure)[next in 3]/(trade)/(bonus)-(total GPT)
    2/8[9 in 3]/0/0-10
    Government Type
    Tech Points: 16
    Stability: 45
    Mil Points:15
    Army
    Navy
    Projects
    Technologies.

    You have 15 Military to build units.
    You have 16 Tech Points to choose techs.
    Not done with Resource map: 4 Main resource Types. Trade Resource. Economic Resource. Military Resource. Special Resource.

    Here is a small list.
    Trade Resource- Can trade +5 GPT
    Gold- +4 GPT
    Copper: +5% military with Copper Smelting. +10% Military with Bronze and copper+tin
    Tin: +1 GPT per trade. All nations traded with gets Tin. Needed for Bronze.
     
  5. Neverwonagame3

    Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual

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    Fendians/Neverwonagame3
    (City Income)/(Infranstructure)[next in 3]/(trade)/(bonus)-(total GPT)
    2/8[9 in 3]/0/0-10
    Shamanate
    Tech Points: 16
    Stability:
    Mil Points:
    Army 15
    Navy 0
    Projects None
    Technologies Undecided
    (I had an idea for a unique technology: New Shamanate Empire. It would give theoretical control over the Shamanate. I'll allocate my techs when I know if it's approved)
     
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    No, actually: You can have it as a claim that your rulars are directly related. Since it costs much not all despots try to use the logical claims. With that tech (10 TP?) you will bet easier NPC Diplomancy and Expancion for Asia Minor. Middle East.

    Did that answer your question. I was thinking I can write updates from a Arch Scribe's point of view.


    Sorry all, I was banned. Please give me advice and help me place resources on the map?

    Gold will be: Hollow Yellow Square.
    Copper will: Hollow Brown Square
    Tin will be: Hollow Gray Square
    Grapes will: Hollow Purple Square (+ 1 GPT per trade route and +5 Stability)
    Gems will: Alternating hollow Purple Gray Square. (+ 1 GPT per trade route and +10 stability with gold)
    Rare Wood: Brown Rectangle (+5 Navy)

    That is pre-classical resources!
     
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    Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual

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    I would have preferred my idea, even if it was more expensive, but ah well.

    Fendians/Neverwonagame3
    (City Income)/(Infranstructure)[next in 3]/(trade)/(bonus)-(total GPT)
    2/8[9 in 3]/0/0-10
    Shamanate
    Tech Points: 16
    Stability:
    Mil Points:
    Army 15
    Navy 0
    Projects None
    Technologies
    Claim to Shaman's Throne (10 TTP)
    Alphabet (1 TTP)
    Writing (1 TTP)
    (Any other techs in existence?)
     
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    I wrote everything wrong! It should be TechPoints.
    Look above for techs!
     
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    Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual

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    Many of them aren't given a tech point cost.
     
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    Yeah, that was me drunk on too much cider.

    Will be fixed.
     
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    Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual

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    Fendians/Neverwonagame3
    (City Income)/(Infranstructure)[next in 3]/(trade)/(bonus)-(total GPT)
    2/8[9 in 3]/0/0-10
    Shamanate
    Tech Points: 16
    Stability:
    Mil Points:
    Army 15
    Navy 0
    Projects None
    Technologies
    Claim to Shaman's Throne (10 TP)
    Better Agriculture (5 TP)

    I'll play, but this seems dead.
     
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    Neah, wait until some other Forum Games are gone then I will restart it.

    Any ways, you are entitled to the Whole Wide World! Do you want it steamed, stewed, grilled or toehr?
     
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    This is Alive. Participation is needed! All I need is a map of resources and I am good to go.

    Yes, I have time. No, I don't have paint. But I do have acceptable editor that only works on making borders and coloring. Anything else is a waste.
     
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    Neverwonagame3 Self-Styled Intellectual

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    I'm still in.
     
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    I know... other guys are just ignoring me. I'd like even styles to come.

    :hide:
     
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    Arian No more ghostbusting!!

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    Hi,

    Can I start in Europe, Amsterdam?

    Color: Orange (what else?)

    Details follow later.


    Thanks for starting this NES.
     
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    A Darali Leader. Good choice. A Darali Leader or one of the Invaders?

    For history read up on the Links. Basically: Noble Darali Tribes has been invaded by Gutavics from the Urals.
     
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    Arian No more ghostbusting!!

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    I'll be a Darali leader, of course...

    Here's the flag (inspired on my avatar):

     
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    Good. Here is some trivia while I wait for the stats nessessary for update.

    Darali was the second most influencial Culture (Chunherra's the first) and the greatest land. At its might it contained North and Central France. Rhineland (Homeland). Alp highlands. Danube Banks. And as far west as I don't know yet. (stories?). Anyways, they also conquered south England when the channel was flooded and has colonies in Italy when the (Mongols!) Gustavics invaded. Now, small city states (Amsterdam) turn into Kingdoms ripe for the future. (Wow, this is almost Update One. :))


    Fendians are mostly a branch of Nobles that supposidy has connections directly to the last shaman 500 years ago. They took over the Holy Council. Cleased it of the Shamans blood and offered it to the heavens. Then, the fought wars to increase their fraction's strength. They are the strongest as Mesopotamian Chunherrans Allied to them, most importantly Yurtz and Turnah. 3 More Factions remain. A Northern Faction with the alliance of a central Asian Tribe. A southern Faction with the word of the Nile under their command while the Eastern Faction is based on Jerico and the Normads of the South and East.

    Should this count as Update 0? Just back round. OMG, I can't take suspence.

    EDIT: Nice map. I think I will give you brownie points for that. ;)
     
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    Do we post actions on the thread, or PM orders like an NES? I'm still in this.
     

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