RK-07: Sid Meier's Janissaries!

Bede · Dec 26, 2006

Oh, hello

Turn 278/660 (1322 AD)
Attack out against the Gallic General and get whacked.

While attacking in Ottoman territory at Bursa, 2nd Janissary of Istanbul (Janissary) loses to: Celtic Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar (Maceman) (2.96/8) (Prob Victory: 72.1%)

Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking : 0
Units victorious while defending : 0
Units defeated while attacking : 1
Units defeated while defending : 0

IBT:

But the wounded general take the bait and moves away from Bursa. It may have something to do with the stack of cats and muskets approaching Vienne.

While defending in Ottoman territory at Bursa, Spearman loses to: Celtic Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar (Maceman) (1.36/8) (Prob Victory: 59.0%)

A Farm near Paris was destroyed by Roman Praetorian

Turn 279/660 (1328 AD) [26-Dec-2006 13:58:52]

Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking : 0
Units victorious while defending : 0
Units defeated while attacking : 0
Units defeated while defending : 1
Istanbul grows: 9

Turn 280/660 (1334 AD) [26-Dec-2006 14:03:52]
Konya grows: 6

IBT:
A Cottage near Antium was destroyed by French Catapult

Turn 281/660 (1340 AD) [26-Dec-2006 14:06:58]

A single round of bombardment and the Ottoman Janissaries assault Vienne

While attacking in Celtic territory at Vienne, 4th Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (7.56/9): Celtic Longbowman (Prob Victory: 88.5%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Vienne, 2nd Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (1.80/9): Celtic Longbowman (Prob Victory: 88.5%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Vienne, 3rd Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (2.88/9): Celtic Maceman (Prob Victory: 78.5%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Vienne, 5th Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) loses to: Celtic War Elephant (0.64/8) (Prob Victory: 88.4%)

Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking : 3
Units victorious while defending : 0
Units defeated while attacking : 1
Units defeated while defending : 0
Gaul grows: 4

IBT:
A Mine near Paris was destroyed by Roman Praetorian

Turn 282/660 (1346 AD) [26-Dec-2006 14:24:33]

We are an equal opportunity war monger.

so when Augie asks us to fight

we declare war on Napoleon

And continue the assault on Vienne to a successful conclusion

While attacking in Celtic territory at Vienne, 1st Catapult of Istanbul (Catapult) loses to: Celtic War Elephant (4.64/8) (Prob Victory: 1.1%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Vienne, Catapult defeats (2.80/5): Celtic Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 28.3%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Vienne, Janissary defeats (7.56/9): Celtic War Elephant (Prob Victory: 99.4%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Vienne, 3rd Spearman of Gaul (Spearman) defeats (3.36/4): Celtic War Elephant (Prob Victory: 99.4%)

Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking : 3
Units victorious while defending : 0
Units defeated while attacking : 1
Units defeated while defending : 0

Brennus sent a pillaging knight and got the copper,

and a couple of maces at Ankara, and that was all I saw of him outside the city limits.

Sold Literature to Monte after researching it, then started on the path for Music. No one knows it and the Artist qwould be nice to quell the unhappy Gallics in our soon to be bew town of Brennus' capitol.

And so to the end, marching on Bibracte and bombarding the town while waiting for treb support.

Get those Pyramids, pholk, and that Big Wall

Meatbuster · Dec 26, 2006

Er, um... I thought Napoleon was our ally. Oh well, AC is, after all, more trustworthy and the score leader anyway...

Who's up now... Eshunna? He's on skip right? If so, the great pholkhero may play.

Cosmichail · Dec 26, 2006

The Great Pholkhero has internet problems so a turnset might not be forthcoming so soon. As per the post in the Lonely guys need chicks.

Nappy is a backstabber and AC is a lot more trustworthy I find too. Game looks good guys enjoying it.

Meatbuster · Dec 27, 2006

It's just me and Bede, then? Ok, this is a got-it for Friday Night unless Eshunna or Furrie can chime in first, or pholk fixes his net.

pholkhero · Dec 28, 2006

huzzah! my internet was fixed this morning, so i can get on this tonight. i will indeed grab all those large stone monuments and see what i can see from there.

pholkhero · Dec 29, 2006

Turn 293/660 (1412 AD) [28-Dec-2006 21:43:48]
I upped the science to 60% for -1 gpt in an effort to get Music a turn faster. But...D'oh! Bruennus has Music!! One more reason to kill him.

Also, we are *just* above him on the Power graph.

Istanbul finishes: Trebuchet

IBT:
Attitude Change: Cyrus(Persia) towards Brennus(Celtia), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly' [ed. note: Ooo ~ that's a grand development. Peria entering attacking us would cause us serious problems. We should end the war before Brennus swears fealty to Cyrus.]
Civics Change: Brennus(Celtia) from 'Bureaucracy' to 'Vassalage'

Turn 294/660 (1418 AD) [28-Dec-2006 21:48:08] Istanbul begins: Trebuchet (6 turns)
A Cottage was built near Ankara

Tech learned: Music

Istanbul grows: 12
Ankara grows: 7

IBT:
Attitude Change: Isabella(Spain) towards Napoleon(France),
from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Isabella(Spain) towards Montezuma(Aztec),
from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly' Okay, so it's Izzy and Monty teaming up, two religious nuts.

Turn 295/660 (1424 AD) [28-Dec-2006 21:49:21]
I'm awaitng reinforcements before taking on the city with the
luck i've been having lately. after music, i'm heading for horseback riding so that we can get some knights to back up our Janissaries. I still think we need to finish off Alex, too! Research begun: Horseback Riding (3 Turns)

Apache finishes: Trebuchet
Konya grows: 7

IBT:

Turn 296/660 (1430 AD) [28-Dec-2006 21:52:15]
Apache begins: Market (29 turns)
Tech learned: Horseback Riding

IBT:
Attitude Change: Cyrus(Persia) towards Brennus(Celtia),
from 'Friendly' to 'Pleased'

Civics Change: Montezuma(Aztec) from 'Organized
Religion' to 'Theocracy' And so Ayatollah Montezuma came to visit us, smug in his righteousness:

I said no, of course.

Turn 297/660 (1436 AD) [28-Dec-2006 21:54:14]
Research begun: Guilds (11 Turns) Knights, here we come.

IBT:
Alexander(Greece) declares war on RK-07(Ottomans) Attitude Change: Alexander(Greece) towards RK-07(Ottomans), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' What an ass!

Islam founded in a distant land
A Camp near Lyons was destroyed by Barbarian Horse
Archer

Turn 298/660 (1442 AD) [28-Dec-2006 21:55:03]
A Mine was built near Ankara

wow, so it looks like Alex wants in on the fight.

Well, good. I wanted to take Bibracte and make peace, so this will fit into our schedule quite nicely. Our cities on that front, though, are poorly defended. I'll have to rememdy that. However, look at this mess:

I'm almost . . . insulted.

I wonder if Cyrus would take on Alex. We might lose those cities, but it doesn't matter anyway b/c I couldn't even ask him as it was redded out.
So i traded:

Tech learned: Monotheism
Tech learned: Drama

I start some Jannissaries to whip next turn for some instant defense, and as replacements for those who might fall in Celtia.
Apache begins: Janissary (15 turns)
Konya begins: Janissary (12 turns)
Sparta begins: Janissary (12 turns)
Ankara begins: Janissary (14 turns)
Vienne begins: Janissary (60 turns)
Bursa begins: Janissary (26 turns)
The attack commences next turn at Bibracte. Brennus has oppressed us long enough. We're goig to probaboy lose all of our seige weapons, but with all the Jannie's i'm going to whip next turn, I'll try to put the overflow into siege replacements.

Istanbul finishes: Trebuchet
A Town was built near Vienne
Gaul finishes: Trebuchet
Apache grows: 9

IBT:
While defending in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 2nd Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (5.76/9): Celtic Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.9%) Stupid Brennus! It's as if the AI has been reading my mind lately! There's no reason to attack me like this:

While defending in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 3rd Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (5.22/9): Celtic War Elephant (Prob Victory: 99.3%) We're going to win anyway.

Turn 299/660 (1448 AD) [28-Dec-2006 22:00:36]
Istanbul begins: Janissary (6 turns)
Gaul begins: Janissary (7 turns)

And now the Attack on Birbracte has begun:
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 1st Trebuchet of Istanbul (Trebuchet) loses to: Celtic Longbowman (4.20/6) (Prob Victory: 3.1%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 1st Trebuchet of Konya (Trebuchet) loses to: Celtic Longbowman (4.20/6) (Prob Victory: 3.1%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, Trebuchet II of Istanbul (Trebuchet) loses to: Celtic Longbowman (1.20/6) (Prob Victory: 17.5%)
Well the ritual trebuchet suicide knocked the longbows off the
top defender spot. Next up for our cats. With the appearance of Alex's
stack, we're going to need defenders there soon!
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, Catapult loses to: Celtic Knight (9.40/10) (Prob Victory: 0.5%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, Catapult loses to: Celtic Knight (8.10/10) (Prob Victory: 0.5%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, Catapult loses to: Celtic Longbowman (1.68/6) (Prob Victory: 4.2%) And one cat w/drew that the log doesn't pick up. 25% chance of w/draw and 1 of 4 actually does . . . that i can live with.
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 7th Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (9.00/9): Celtic Knight (Prob Victory: 88.3%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 1st Janissary of Konya (Janissary) defeats (3.87/9): Celtic Longbowman (Prob Victory: 94.8%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 4th Janissary of Istanbul (Janissary) defeats (5.58/9): Celtic Longbowman (Prob Victory: 94.8%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 6th Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) loses to: Celtic Knight (3.60/10) (Prob Victory: 88.7%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, Janissary defeats (7.56/9): Celtic Longbowman (Prob Victory: 98.2%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 6th Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (2.88/9): Celtic Knight (Prob Victory: 96.6%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, Georgy Zhukov (Janissary) defeats (3.24/9): Celtic Maceman (Prob Victory: 99.1%)
What the christ! 13 more units left in the city! Where did they come from?? I counted only 11 when i first started!!
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 2nd Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (7.11/9): Celtic Catapult (Prob Victory: 97.4%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 3rd Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (0.27/9): Celtic Catapult (Prob Victory: 93.1%)

Scipio Africanus (Great General) born in Apache

While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 1st Axeman of Ankara (Maceman) defeats (6.64/8): Celtic Maceman (Prob Victory: 97.0%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 1st Axeman of Sparta (Maceman) defeats (6.64/8): Celtic Longbowman (Prob Victory: 95.5%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 3rd Spearman of Gaul (Pikeman) defeats (3.30/6): Celtic Trebuchet (Prob Victory: 97.1%)
Hey...Scipio was born!! Nice...what should we do with him? For now, i move him west, out of the line of fire. I press enter and pray that a) no more cletic troops show up, and b)the rng smiles upon me with alex's short stack

Istanbul grows: 13
Vienne finishes: Janissary
Ankara grows: 5
Ankara finishes: Janissary
Bursa grows: 7
Apache finishes: Janissary
Sparta grows: 10
Sparta finishes: Janissary
Konya finishes: Janissary

IBT:
Cyrus comes in, getting all grabby:

Turn 300/660 (1454 AD) [28-Dec-2006 22:09:50]
I gave in to Persia's demands to keep them off our back. we can't afford another freaking war now! And, with the fights last turn, i'm able to promote Gen'l Zhukov. Hah! nice, a medic III Jannie! Let's recommence the attack!!
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 2nd Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (5.13/9): Celtic Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.5%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 7th Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (4.68/9): Celtic Knight (Prob Victory: 99.2%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, Janissary defeats (4.23/9): Celtic Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.8%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 1st Axeman of Sparta (Maceman) defeats (6.24/8): Celtic Trebuchet (Prob Victory: 98.6%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 1st Axeman of Ankara (Maceman) defeats (3.52/8): Celtic Trebuchet (Prob Victory: 98.6%)
While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 4th Janissary of Istanbul (Janissary) defeats (5.85/9): Celtic Knight (Prob Victory: 99.9%)

And Georgy Zhukov, the great general and doctor, will walk triumphant into the Celtic capital!

While attacking in Celtic territory at Bibracte, Georgy Zhukov (Janissary) defeats (5.04/9): Celtic Trebuchet (Prob Victory: 99.9%)

A City Ruins was destroyed near Samsun An odd log ~

Hinduism has spread: Bibracte Buddhism has spread: Bibracte
Captured Bibracte (Brennus)

Bibracte begins: Granary (90 turns)
A Farm was built near Apache

I thnk we should either use the GG in Konya to build an acadmey or make him an instructor in one of our other academy cities. he's going to sleep in Konya for now.

A Village was built near Sparta
Konya finishes: Trebuchet

IBT:
While defending in Celtic territory near Camulodunum, Catapult loses to: Celtic Longbowman (3.84/6) (Prob Victory: 21.7%) Ugh, caught out in open, it was! But now that other celtic city only has a pike in it!!

A Village near Lyons was destroyed by Barbarian Horse Archer
Attitude Change: Alexander(Greece) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Cyrus(Persia) towards Brennus(Celtia), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly' Back to happy days for those two!

Civics Change: Brennus(Celtia) from 'Police State' to 'Despotism'

Turn 301/660 (1460 AD) [28-Dec-2006 22:17:08]
Konya begins: Janissary (10 turns)

We hit 5 Million people, and here's the Demo screen:

And w/the fall of Bibracte's culture, Vienne picks up those horses.

In 7 turns, we can start building knights to pillage, pillage and pillage.

Hah! 5 M people AND access to horses on the smae turn...coincidence?? I think not!

I decide to take a chance and try to clean up that Greek mess:
While attacking in Ottoman territory at Apache, Janissary II of Apache (Janissary) defeats (1.35/9): Greek Maceman (Prob Victory: 74.7%)
While attacking in Ottoman territory at Apache, Janissary II of Konya (Janissary) defeats (7.65/9): Greek Catapult (Prob Victory: 97.1%)
While attacking in Ottoman territory at Apache, Maceman defeats (3.20/8): Greek Catapult (Prob Victory: 96.8%) there's only a cat and a chariot left that I can't get good odds on so I'll leave them alone.

And I'll take out that longbow what killed our cat earlier.
While attacking in the wild at Bibracte, 2nd Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (4.05/9): Celtic Longbowman (Prob Victory: 98.9%)

I'm swinging our forces east toward greece and camulodunum (Celtic). It's
defended by a lone pikeman!! Also, taking Bibracte knocked Brennus from 2nd down to 7th...second from the top to second from the bottom. once camulo falls, we could either sue for peace and head over to Alex's side OR
just hold off Alex for now, as his "stack" is but a cat & a chariot. Then, we can just keep the pressure on Brennus and utterly destory him...though i htink we did that farily well already! He's lower than Alex in score now! We'll just need to make sure he doesn't grab onto Cyrus as his last resort.

Ankara grows: 6

IBT:
While defending in Ottoman territory at Apache, Janissary II of Konya (Janissary) defeats (5.31/9): Greek Catapult (Prob Victory: 97.7%)
While defending in Celtic territory at Bibracte, 1st Janissary of Konya (Janissary) loses to: Celtic Knight (2.40/10) (Prob Victory: 16.9%)

Auggie comes by for a trade.

I accept to keep a good friend happy, but it angers Lil' Gen-E-Ral (i think he's a new rapper). Attitude Change: Napoleon(France) towards RK-07(Ottomans), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 302/660 (1466 AD) [28-Dec-2006 22:24:04] While attacking in Ottoman territory at Bibracte, 3rd Spearman of Gaul (Pikeman) defeats (4.50/6): Celtic Knight (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
A Mine was built near Konya

I'm going to go after that last chariot of Alex's:
While attacking in Ottoman territory near Jute, Spearman defeats (2.96/4): Greek Chariot (Prob Victory: 99.4%)

Vienne's borders expand

IBT:
While defending in Greek territory near Athens, Spearman loses to: Greek Longbowman (4.08/6) (Prob Victory: 2.3%)
While defending in Celtic territory near Bibracte, 3rd Spearman of Gaul (Pikeman) loses to: Celtic Longbowman (6.00/6) (Prob Victory: 48.2%)

A City Ruins was built
A City Ruins was destroyed near Samsun Another oddity.

Santiago (Isabella) culture flips

Turn 303/660 (1472 AD) [28-Dec-2006 22:26:50] Santiago begins: Granary (23 turns) okay, our forces can heal while we bombard the city's defenses. Once this city falls, i think it really is lights out for Brennus. And look! Napoleon is now 7th!! Auggie must be doing a number on him. Do we have perm alliances on?

And that's that. Camulo should fall relatively soon, even though Brennus has stashed a couple more units in it. We've got a cat there, and a treb on the way. It will take a few turns to bombard the defenses, but our forces will need their Medic III Gen'l to heal them while they wait.

After that, we've got about 3 or 4 treps in Apache ready to go east if we want and take out Alex. If that stack is any judge, it should be quite easy. I can't imagine why he'd attack, unless his finances are in shambles and he's trying to expand to make moeny.

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Bede · Dec 29, 2006

Why not take Brennus as a vassal?

Good job, pholk. Revenge is sweet!

And Augie has been tap dancing all over Napoleon ever since he marched all those praets to the east. Paris fell during my years at the helm IIRC.

Meatbuster · Dec 29, 2006

Heh heh. Why would Alex attack us anyway. I'd think he should've gone for Monty instead. Sigh, Alex never learns.

This is the pickup, and I'll play either later tonight or tomorrow morning.

Meatbuster · Dec 30, 2006

Pre-turn:
Monty has his hands full right now... hmm... I wonder who he's going to be after.

Turn 1:
Sparta is unhappy, whip Market for 2.
Greece shows up at Sparta with a deatchment Mace Pike Catapult Axeman. Not a big deal.

Redirect some troops from Apache to deal with it

Turn 2:
Istanbul: Jan -> Theater
Ankara: Market -> Jan
Gaul: Janissary -> Heroic Epic

IBT: Knight attacks Bibracte and dies to a Jan

Turn 3:
Attach Military Instructor to Gaul
Whip Janissary at Sparta... more troops are heading this way...

Turn 4:
Sparta: Jan -> Catapult
Lyons captured by Augustus
Sparta's defense down to 45%

Turn 5:
Konya: Jan -> Catapult
Greece continues bombing Sparta but that's not going to continue... I attack!
Janissary loses to Mace
Janissary loses to Mace
Janissary beats Axe
Janissary beats Pike
Axeman beats Catapult

Hmm... :smoke:

We have more troops anyway. Plus 1 city garrison Jan at Sparta. Not going to die soon.

Camulodunum...
3 trebs withdraw

1 treb dies
2 maces die
All Janissaries win, including Georgy Zhukov.
Forgot to take screen of victory heheh.

IBT: Janissary dies to Treb in Sparta.

Turn 6:
Near Sparta: Janissary beats Treb, Jan beats Cat

(stop!)

Well I stop here for three things...
1. I realized that Brennus might become a Vassal of Cyrus soon. And our economy is dying fast (barely making money at 40% sci)
2. So I check out what he will give up to capitulate...
3. And I have a headache and need to go to sleep. :lol:

He will offer the city of Verlamion (it's on the ice) + 110 gold and capitulate. Boy he's smart, he even knows we know what kind of city he's offering, doesn't he? I suggest swapping that worthless city out for techs...

I think Optics + Guilds (1 turn left) + gold should work. Also try Philo + Guilds (or even Philo + Optics + Guilds) if it's possible.

If I remember correctly, extorted techs don't count towards "we fear... advanced" right?

dimaliok · Dec 31, 2006

nice game i'm thinking about buying warlords

Bede · Dec 31, 2006

Got it!

Nice work on both fronts. Let's see what I can do about Brennus, Cyrus and Alex.

Bede · Dec 31, 2006

Decide to take a run at Liberalism so make a buy of Philosophy and cash from Cyrus for Gunpowder

then accept Brennus's as a vassal and take more cash and Optics and Guilds.

The result is a tremendous peace dividend which goes to financing the run to Liberalism with some added cash from Augie for Music and maps, helped along by a donation from Isabella.

The forces in old Celtland make their way across country to Apache for a Greek adventure.

Cyrus then tries to extort Education but I send him shopping elsewhere.

Alex sends a Crossbow at Apache but it takes two Janissaries to take him out (he was sitting on the spices)

Then he sends a lonely catapult which becomes promotion bait for the Janissary garrison

And follows that with a single mace who is another step for a Janissary

When Bibracte comes out of resistance whip in forge and follow with a courthouse then start on troop training facilities. That city will become a troop training powerhouse

Then Monte gets a wild hair and pulls this stunt

That will of course keep Cyrus busy in the northeast while we prosecute the Greek War.

Brennus was given some iron and told to go attack Orleans and must have had some pillaging success as he finds 270 gold pieces somewhere, I remove those from his pocket for Paper

In 1532 we cross the border into Greece and start with one of Alex's junk towns to gain experience for the assault team before tackling Athens

The army cleans up the south by burning those junk towns. If Alex becomes our vassal I really don't want his economy hobbled by ice bound towns far from his homeland. Jute falls and our troops gain more experience, then Mycenae and finally Pharsalos next to Santiago, then they turn north again reinforced by knights, macemen and trebs.

When Liberalism comes in I consider what will enhance the realm best and decide that Chemistry will be my choice. Nationalism would be of lesser value to us, while Grenadiers will be just the thing to face down Alex's army at Athens.

Alex sends another small force at Sparta,

then puts a knight on the silver mine

so a janissary kills the knight while the garrison troops defeat his mace and treb at the gates and the crossbow scuttles back towards Athens

Monte seeks our support

And I suggest he go back to his halls and sulk. Cyrus has had some success against him by capturing Texcoco.

ALexander sends in the Lone Ranger at Apache

He dead, and Tonto is heard muttering something about "What do mean we, White Man?"

And in 1580 we are knocking on the gates of Athens

The approaching Ottoman army is cats, trebs, Jans and CR2 grenadiers (upgraded from the maces on hand). Athens shall soon join the realm (Will we get to bombard the Parthenon?)

Ran the scientists through Printing Press after Chemistry for the economic boost then started on Steel for cannon.

Augie and Nappie continue to mix it up and Nappie is reduced to Orleans and some ice bound towns. Nappie sent a Horse Archer at TOlosa but Brennus dispatched it convincingly.

pholkhero · Jan 2, 2007

mmmm...I smell a war with Cyrus a'comin' in the nigh future ~

I've got the save, but won't be able to play until tomorrow night. I'll continue on against the Greek, and will never give up, never surrender. I will fight him on the plains hill, and in the jungle. On the camped elephant grassland and the cottaged flood plain. On the...well, you guys get the idea.

pholkhero · Jan 4, 2007

Okay, load it up and away i go. I first loaded Bede's previous 15th century save and MMed away there, but once i realized we were still at war with Brennus, i figured out i made a mistake

So i loaded up the right save, and just didn't go through our cities; I'm pretty sure Bede did a good job before me, so . . . plus i'm lazy.

press enter.

Turn 331/660 (1580 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:09:35]
Vienne finishes: Granary
Bursa finishes: Courthouse
Sparta finishes: Grocer

IBT:
Attitude Change: Cyrus(Persia) towards Brennus(Celtia), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly' Ahh, he loves us!
Civics Change: Brennus(Celtia) from 'Bureaucracy' to 'Vassalage'

Turn 332/660 (1583 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:15:15]
Bursa begins: Confucian Monastery (12 turns)
Sparta begins: Theatre (7 turns)
I started that monastery so that we could send out confucian monks all throughout the lands, and get a few monetary benefits for Bursa. I also moved the army next to athens. the attack commences at dawn.

Ankara grows: 9
Konya's borders expand

IBT:

Turn 333/660 (1586 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:18:05]
A Farm was built near Konya
A Hamlet was built near Ankara
Bibracte grows: 13
Santiago finishes: Granary
Camulodunum finishes: Hammam

IBT:
Attitude Change: Napoleon(France) towards Brennus(Celtia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Cyrus came to visit us:

note, despite what the photo says, I said yes to try and get some postive modifiers working to get him aboive Cautious...notice that it didn't work

RK-07(Ottomans) declares war on Montezuma(Aztec)
Brennus(Celtia) declares war on Montezuma(Aztec)

Turn 334/660 (1589 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:19:31]

Santiago begins: Hammam (75 turns)
Camulodunum begins: Barracks (7 turns)

I found a scientist sleeping so I moved him to Sparta to found an acadmey. I didn't remember reading anything about him, but Sparta, w/all those Dyes (ed note: we should cottage a bunch of them, i think) it's #2 in the empire for science, so: Sparta finishes: Academy

Back in Greece, after one and a half rounds of bombardment, Athens is redy for assault! Trebuchet's first!
While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, 1st Trebuchet of Ankara (Trebuchet) loses to: Greek Musketman (6.48/9) (Prob Victory: 1.0%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, Trebuchet III of Istanbul (Trebuchet) loses to: Greek Musketman (4.14/9) (Prob Victory: 16.5%)

And now the ground troops!
While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, Grenadier loses to: Greek Longbowman (0.48/6) (Prob Victory: 85.4%) wow, losing an 85er -- what's up with that?
While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, Grenadier loses to: Greek Musketman (2.16/9) (Prob Victory: 87.9%) wow again! And i was just htinking that i can't wait to execute that new general in the Athens marketplace.

While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, 1st Axeman of Ankara (Grenadier) defeats (12.00/12): Greek Knight (Prob Victory: 94.5%) I *love* that they still have the name "axeman" :yup:

While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, Janissary II of Apache (Janissary) defeats (9.00/9): Greek Longbowman (Prob Victory: 83.9%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, 6th Janissary of Gaul (Janissary) defeats (4.68/9): Greek Longbowman (Prob Victory: 93.4%)

George Patton (Great General) born in Istanbul Sweet! On with the attack, for General Patton!!

While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, 2nd Janissary of Ankara (Janissary) defeats (9.00/9): Greek Longbowman (Prob Victory: 85.5%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, Trebuchet II of Konya (Trebuchet) defeats (2.08/4): Greek Pikeman (Prob Victory: 95.9%) nice, that'll teach that pikeman
While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, 1st Knight of Gaul (Knight) defeats (2.40/10): Greek Musketman (Prob Victory: 96.0%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, 2nd Knight of Istanbul (Knight) defeats (8.10/10): Greek Musketman (Prob Victory: 99.8%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Athens, 1st Knight of Istanbul (Knight) defeats (10.00/10): Greek Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)

Huzzah!! to paraphrase a very wise man: Victory is ours!

Captured Athens (Alexander)

Athens begins: Theatre (75 turns)

So, no then, what to do with our new general? I wanted to found an Academy somewhere, to help with troop production. Then i realized that the city he was in was our #1 hammer producer!! Istanbul finishes: Military Academy

well, he won't surrender yet, so, i'm going ot head north and raze Knossos. It's close to the border with Persia, and so may not be ours for very long. I'd like NOT to strengthen Cyrus' hand. (on second thought, though, it might not've flipped very soon, esp if we holed up a large garrison there, which we'd need to do since it borders Persia.)

Istanbul finishes: Maceman
A Village was built near Vienne
Gaul finishes: Knight
Bibracte finishes: Knight
Isaac Newton (Scientist) (Great Scientist) born in Bibracte

IBT:
While defending in Greek territory at Knossos, 1st Knight of Konya (Knight) loses to: Greek Pikeman (0.90/6) (Prob Victory: 24.7%)
Attitude Change: Alexander(Greece) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Montezuma(Aztec) towards RK-07(Ottomans), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Montezuma(Aztec) towards Napoleon(France), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Montezuma(Aztec) towards Brennus(Celtia), from 'Pleased' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Brennus(Celtia) towards Montezuma(Aztec), from 'Pleased' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Brennus(Celtia) towards Cyrus(Persia), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly' LOTS of diplomatic action here, lots of action!! This log grabs some great info (if only it could capture withdrawls . . .

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Turn 335/660 (1592 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:31:59]
Istanbul begins: Grenadier (5 turns)
Gaul begins: Grenadier (6 turns)
Bibracte begins: Trebuchet (6 turns)
Notice we got another GS!! He'll bulb Sci Method, but I slumber this one. I leave his fate to the group (my thoughts are bulbing him for a better tech or saving him for a GA).
Istanbul begins: Settler (5 turns) Idecide to to refound the city the barbaric celts had razed hundreds of years ago. Now who's da boss? Huh, bee-atches?!

While attacking in the wild at Athens, 1st Axeman of Ankara (Grenadier) defeats (12.00/12): Greek Pikeman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
A Plantation was built near Sparta
While attacking in the wild near Athens, 1st Knight of Bibracte (Knight) defeats (7.00/10): Barbarian Warrior (Prob Victory: 100.0%) I'm also sending a pair of knights south to check out a barb city and fog bust a little to prevent more from popping up. I guess we could use more settlers to fill in this land

Gaul grows: 8
Apache finishes: Forge
A Town was built near Sparta
Konya grows: 7
Konya finishes: Trebuchet

IBT:
Attitude Change: Cyrus(Persia) towards Napoleon(France), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Civics Change: Napoleon(France) from 'Bureaucracy' to 'Vassalage'
Civics Change: Napoleon(France) from 'Decentralization' to 'Mercantilism'

Turn 336/660 (1595 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:36:24]
Apache begins: Longbowman (5 turns)
Konya begins: Longbowman (6 turns)
Sparta grows: 12
Bibracte grows: 14

IBT:
Attitude Change: Brennus(Celtia) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Cyrus(Persia) towards Montezuma(Aztec), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Civics Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) from 'Bureaucracy' to 'Vassalage'
Civics Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) from 'Decentralization' to 'Mercantilism'
Civics Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) from 'Theocracy' to 'Organized Religion' And odd set of changes, no?

Also, Cyrus proposed a trade, but i renegotiated with him:

he orignally offered me a deer, but i prefer a "like" resource trade, so chose the happy resource he had.

Turn 337/660 (1598 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:38:04]
argh! Just when i want to expand our lands into old Greece:

A Cottage was built near Sparta

I take out my frustrations at Knossos, where the army's been assmbling, and the siege equipment has battered the city down to 1% defense. Onward Confucian Soldiers, marching on to glo-o-o-o-ry.
While attacking in Greek territory at Knossos, 1st Axeman of Ankara (Grenadier) defeats (10.20/12): Greek Knight (Prob Victory: 96.8%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Knossos, Janissary II of Apache (Janissary) defeats (0.90/9): Greek Maceman (Prob Victory: 97.2%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Knossos, 2nd Janissary of Ankara (Janissary) defeats (3.60/9): Greek Pikeman (Prob Victory: 97.0%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Knossos, 1st Knight of Istanbul (Knight) defeats (4.60/10): Greek Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.4%)

Captured Knossos (Alexander)
Razed Knossos
Knossos lost
A City Ruins was built
well, still no capitulation so i'm going to kill those last two scrub cities and leave him, fittingly enough for the Greeks, as but a lone city-state.
Ankara grows: 10
A Town was built near Bibracte

IBT:

Turn 338/660 (1601 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:42:40]

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Turn 337/660 (1598 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:47:05]
okay, got a CTD and now have to re=assualt
While attacking in Greek territory at Knossos, 1st Axeman of Ankara (Grenadier) defeats (10.20/12): Greek Knight (Prob Victory: 96.8%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Knossos, Janissary II of Apache (Janissary) defeats (0.90/9): Greek Maceman (Prob Victory: 97.2%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Knossos, 2nd Janissary of Ankara (Janissary) defeats (3.60/9): Greek Pikeman (Prob Victory: 97.0%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Knossos, 2nd Knight of Istanbul (Knight) defeats (4.90/10): Greek Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.5%)
A City Ruins was destroyed near Samsun
Hinduism has spread: Knossos
Captured Knossos (Alexander)
Razed Knossos
Knossos lost
A City Ruins was built

A Cottage was built near Sparta
Ankara grows: 10
A Town was built near Bibracte

IBT:

Turn 338/660 (1601 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:50:27]
A Farm near Argos was destroyed by Ottoman 1st Knight of Istanbul (Knight)
Apache grows: 10

IBT:
Civics Change: Cyrus(Persia) from 'Decentralization' to 'Mercantilism'
Civics Change: Isabella(Spain) from 'Bureaucracy' to 'Vassalage'

Turn 339/660 (1604 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:51:44]
A Farm near Argos was destroyed by Ottoman 1st Knight of Istanbul (Knight)
Istanbul finishes: Settler
Gaul finishes: Grenadier

IBT:
Attitude Change: Napoleon(France) towards Alexander(Greece), from 'Friendly' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Brennus(Celtia) towards Cyrus(Persia), from 'Friendly' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Cyrus(Persia) towards Brennus(Celtia), from 'Friendly' to 'Pleased'

And I also made a couple deals with Brennus. He started by demanding, but then ended up gifting as well.

Attitude Change: Brennus(Celtia) towards RK-07(Ottomans), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'

Turn 340/660 (1607 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:53:18]
Istanbul begins: Hindu Monastery (4 turns)
Gaul begins: Grenadier (5 turns)
A Plantation near Texcoco was destroyed by Ottoman 1st Knight of Istanbul (Knight) I'm trying to cut down some of the resources in Greek territory (where this actually is).
A Cottage was built near Ankara
Apache finishes: Longbowman
Sparta finishes: Theatre
Bibracte grows: 15
Bibracte finishes: Trebuchet
Camulodunum finishes: Barracks

IBT:
While defending in Greek territory at Ephesus, Trebuchet II of Konya (Trebuchet) loses to: Greek Maceman (4.64/8) (Prob Victory: 1.0%)
While defending in Greek territory near Besancon, Trebuchet III of Konya (Trebuchet) defeats (2.32/4): Greek Longbowman (Prob Victory: 21.7%)
Montezuma(Aztec) and Cyrus(Persia) have signed a peace treaty
Attitude Change: Montezuma(Aztec) towards Cyrus(Persia), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Cyrus(Persia) towards Montezuma(Aztec), from 'Furious' to 'Cautious'

Turn 341/660 (1610 AD) [03-Jan-2007 20:55:19]
While attacking in Aztec territory near Susa, 2nd Knight of Istanbul (Knight) defeats (7.20/10): Aztec Crossbowman (Prob Victory: 99.5%)
Apache begins: Knight (9 turns)
Sparta begins: Christian Monastery (12 turns)
Bibracte begins: Theatre (4 turns)
Camulodunum begins: Janissary (10 turns)

I finally have some troops in position to attack Ephesus, Alex's southern-most city.
While attacking in Greek territory at Ephesus, Knight II of Bibracte (Knight) loses to: Greek Longbowman (4.98/6) (Prob Victory: 23.5%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Ephesus, 1st Knight of Ankara (Knight) loses to: Greek Longbowman (4.92/6) (Prob Victory: 28.5%)
While attacking in Greek territory at Ephesus, 1st Maceman of Istanbul (Grenadier) loses to: Greek Longbowman (1.20/6) (Prob Victory: 79.7%) Well, i know i'd have to sacrifice as the longbows were all CG II and the defenses were high, but dang! I call off the attack.

While attacking in Greek territory at Ephesus, 1st Knight of Gaul (Knight) defeats (10.00/10): Greek Maceman (Prob Victory: 99.4%)
RK-07(Ottomans) and Alexander(Greece) have signed a peace treaty Okay, i took peace with Alex as i can't take out ephesus with the samll army i've got, and monty's getting close to athens with his persian conquests. We got banking out of the deal.
Tech learned: Banking

Brennus(Celtia) and Alexander(Greece) have signed a peace treaty

I founded our new old city. Feel free to change the name:
New New Edirne founded
New New Edirne begins: Granary (45 turns) There's a longbow on the way for garrison duty. Otherwise, our army is holed up in Athens, right on the border with Azteca. I think we should either move forward and take the fight to Monty (as he's got several units on the march in Persia; he's already taken a city) or heal for 10 turns, move the army south, w/new siege equipment, and end Alex's reign. Raze the 2 southern cities and keep the current capital (i forget the name). We could then go on to Monty, if needed.

We still have a good tech advantage with our grenadiers. I think a Dom victory is in order. It'd be esp neat if we could do it via w/as many vassal states as possible. That seems in order for the Ottoman empire, no?

DaSV4U (my liscense plate)

Bede · Jan 10, 2007

<tiptoes in and looks around the big map room>

"awful quiet in here, what's everybody up to?"

Got it for some fun times in the east.

Bede · Jan 13, 2007

Took the war further into Aztec territory.

Captured and burned Texococo. Then curled up on hill to heal and await reinforcements, mostkty cannon.

Built the Forbidden Palace in Bibracte and started research to Nationalism after Steel.

Athens is getting squeezed by Persian and Greek culture and the peace treaty with Alexander has run its course, so perhaps a little ethnic cleansing might be in order.

More war if you want it

Bede · Jan 17, 2007

Bede said:
<tiptoes in and looks around the big map room>

"awful quiet in here, what's everybody up to?"

Got it for some fun times in the east.

Bede said:
Took the war further into Aztec territory.

Captured and burned Texococo. Then curled up on hill to heal and await reinforcements, mostkty cannon.

Built the Forbidden Palace in Bibracte and started research to Nationalism after Steel.

Athens is getting squeezed by Persian and Greek culture and the peace treaty with Alexander has run its course, so perhaps a little ethnic cleansing might be in order.

More war if you want it

"More war, more war" he shouted with glee.

How could I resist? So got it again for some more fun in the east.

Bede · Jan 17, 2007

Montezuma now a vassal, Greece destroyed.

Golden Age started with Artist and Scientist from Bibracte, Taj Mahal now building in Bibracte, will piggyback Golden Age 2 at end of GA1.

Rome declared on Napoleon and made him a vassal of Rome, so troops redirected towards Spain.

Spread some more religion around (Confucianism and Christianity and revolted to Free Speech, Representation and Free Religion.

Learned MilTrad and headed towards Railroads. We can start building those lumbe rmills at Istanbul!

So take it to Spain

Spoiler :

RK-07: Sid Meier's Janissaries!

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