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Romance of the Three Kingdoms Mod v.018
*CIV4 ONLY! NOT WARLORDS!!!
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Romance of the Three Kingdoms Mod
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Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a book with a long and impressive history. Nevertheless, this novel concerning the history of 1800 years ago is still acknowledged as a literary masterpiece today.
The novel covers one hundred and thirteen years of Chinese history, starting in 168 A.D. and ending with the reunification of the land in 280 A.D.
Three Kingdoms describes a fascinating dynastic-cycle: the fall of the Han Dynasty under Emperor Ling due to the Yellow Scarves rebellion, the division of the Empire into the three kingdoms Shu, Wei, and Wu and the reunification of the empire by the Jin Dynasty.
The first eighty chapters of the novel are dedicated to the reign of the last Han Emperor, Xian (A.D. 189-220). It describes in detail the crisis that causes the end of a four-hundred- year dynasty. The Cao family replaced the ruling house of the Liu eventually, when Cao Pi forced the abdication of Emperor Xian.
The last forty chapters deal with the division of the land into the Three Kingdoms or Three Dynasties. We call this the Sanguo period in Chinese. This period ended when the house of Jin finally united the land.
The first sentence of the novel explains the aforementioned Dynastic Cycle: The Empire, long divided, must unite: long united, must divide.
The recording of this history starts when Chen Shou (a scholar of the late Sanguo period) compiled the biographies of officers and rulers into three books. This amazing piece of work, Sanguo Zhi (SGZ), literally means Records of Three Kingdoms.
Ninety years after Chen Shous death, an official of both the Eastern Jin and Liu-Song Dynasties named Pei Songzhi added a large amount of notes to Chen Shous original work. The notes (Zhu) came from hundreds of different sources. Some officials said he added too many notes, but with the permission of the Liu-Song Emperor, Pei Zhongzhi continued his work. The authenticity of the notes remained unclear; the Liu-Song Emperor criticized Pei Zhongzhi for this, and said his work had occasional mistakes due to neglect.
It might be said that Pei Zhongzhi became the first person who introduced fiction into Chen Shous bureaucratic and factual report (SGZ).
In 429 A.D. the Liu-Song Emperor accepted Pei Zhongzhis work, and the revised Sanguo Zhi, integrated with the Zhu (notes), was then established as the official history of the Three Kingdoms era. The Chinese name for this work became Sanguozhi Zhu.
Some 1200 years later, Luo Guanzhong used the material in Sanguo Zhi Zhu to write his own novel, Sanguozhi Tong Shu Yan Yi. Luo Guanzhong also included material from Tang Dynasty poetic works, Yuan Dynasty operas and his own personal interpretation of elements such as virtue (De) and legitimacy (Zhengtong).
The Qing scholar Zhang Xuecheng noted that if the novel Journey to the West (Xi You Ji) was purely fictional and the Chronicles of the Kingdoms (Lie Guo Zhi) was purely factual, then Sanguozhi Tong Shu Yan Yi was seven parts of fact, and three parts of fiction.
Luo Guanzhong could also have consulted Zizhi tongjian (ZZTJ), a historical record of 1,362 years of Chinese history (403 B.C. to A.D. 959), written by Sima Guang during the Northern Song reign.
Summarizing, SGZ formed the basis for Sima Guangs narration on the Sanguo period. SGZ and ZZTJ were then used by Luo Guanzhong to write Sanguozhi Tong Shu Yan Yi.
Later on during the Yuan-Ming transition period (A.D. 1600 1700), Mao Lun and his son Mao Zhong Gang edited Sanguozhi Tong Shu Yan Yi and renamed it to Sanguo yanyi (SGYY). This version became known as the Mao edition.
C.H. Brewitt-Taylor provided the first complete English translation of SGYY. However this translation did not have an explanation on the Zhu (notes) that Pei Zhongzhi added. The Moss Robert translation gives more insight in the notes and political influences involved with all the rewriting of the original history.
Romance of the Three Kingdoms gives us a great opportunity to discover the nuances and diversity of Chinese culture, by describing the Dynastic powers of the Imperial court and the gruesome conditions of the suffering populace.
From Kings and Emperors, to scholars and peasant rebels, all play their part in this amazing story of great importance.
The novel covers one hundred and thirteen years of Chinese history, starting in 168 A.D. and ending with the reunification of the land in 280 A.D.
Three Kingdoms describes a fascinating dynastic-cycle: the fall of the Han Dynasty under Emperor Ling due to the Yellow Scarves rebellion, the division of the Empire into the three kingdoms Shu, Wei, and Wu and the reunification of the empire by the Jin Dynasty.
The first eighty chapters of the novel are dedicated to the reign of the last Han Emperor, Xian (A.D. 189-220). It describes in detail the crisis that causes the end of a four-hundred- year dynasty. The Cao family replaced the ruling house of the Liu eventually, when Cao Pi forced the abdication of Emperor Xian.
The last forty chapters deal with the division of the land into the Three Kingdoms or Three Dynasties. We call this the Sanguo period in Chinese. This period ended when the house of Jin finally united the land.
The first sentence of the novel explains the aforementioned Dynastic Cycle: The Empire, long divided, must unite: long united, must divide.
The recording of this history starts when Chen Shou (a scholar of the late Sanguo period) compiled the biographies of officers and rulers into three books. This amazing piece of work, Sanguo Zhi (SGZ), literally means Records of Three Kingdoms.
Ninety years after Chen Shous death, an official of both the Eastern Jin and Liu-Song Dynasties named Pei Songzhi added a large amount of notes to Chen Shous original work. The notes (Zhu) came from hundreds of different sources. Some officials said he added too many notes, but with the permission of the Liu-Song Emperor, Pei Zhongzhi continued his work. The authenticity of the notes remained unclear; the Liu-Song Emperor criticized Pei Zhongzhi for this, and said his work had occasional mistakes due to neglect.
It might be said that Pei Zhongzhi became the first person who introduced fiction into Chen Shous bureaucratic and factual report (SGZ).
In 429 A.D. the Liu-Song Emperor accepted Pei Zhongzhis work, and the revised Sanguo Zhi, integrated with the Zhu (notes), was then established as the official history of the Three Kingdoms era. The Chinese name for this work became Sanguozhi Zhu.
Some 1200 years later, Luo Guanzhong used the material in Sanguo Zhi Zhu to write his own novel, Sanguozhi Tong Shu Yan Yi. Luo Guanzhong also included material from Tang Dynasty poetic works, Yuan Dynasty operas and his own personal interpretation of elements such as virtue (De) and legitimacy (Zhengtong).
The Qing scholar Zhang Xuecheng noted that if the novel Journey to the West (Xi You Ji) was purely fictional and the Chronicles of the Kingdoms (Lie Guo Zhi) was purely factual, then Sanguozhi Tong Shu Yan Yi was seven parts of fact, and three parts of fiction.
Luo Guanzhong could also have consulted Zizhi tongjian (ZZTJ), a historical record of 1,362 years of Chinese history (403 B.C. to A.D. 959), written by Sima Guang during the Northern Song reign.
Summarizing, SGZ formed the basis for Sima Guangs narration on the Sanguo period. SGZ and ZZTJ were then used by Luo Guanzhong to write Sanguozhi Tong Shu Yan Yi.
Later on during the Yuan-Ming transition period (A.D. 1600 1700), Mao Lun and his son Mao Zhong Gang edited Sanguozhi Tong Shu Yan Yi and renamed it to Sanguo yanyi (SGYY). This version became known as the Mao edition.
C.H. Brewitt-Taylor provided the first complete English translation of SGYY. However this translation did not have an explanation on the Zhu (notes) that Pei Zhongzhi added. The Moss Robert translation gives more insight in the notes and political influences involved with all the rewriting of the original history.
Romance of the Three Kingdoms gives us a great opportunity to discover the nuances and diversity of Chinese culture, by describing the Dynastic powers of the Imperial court and the gruesome conditions of the suffering populace.
From Kings and Emperors, to scholars and peasant rebels, all play their part in this amazing story of great importance.
Rhymes
Drive 4 25 is back
I'de have Zhuge Liang instead of Liu Chan.... You can't have a ROTK mod without Zhuge Liang... You could also include Shi Xie as player # 17.
Besides that, what are your other plans for this mod? Any special features of interest? Do you plan on including different characters as Hero units or something?
Besides that, what are your other plans for this mod? Any special features of interest? Do you plan on including different characters as Hero units or something?
ohcrapitsnico
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I would say a good chunk of the work is done for you if you have warlords. You maybe could take out the hwacha unit for the... oh crap I forgot that thingie Zhuge liang used and I even read rotk.
I don't think though that they used chariots in that time.
I don't think though that they used chariots in that time.
darkonion
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Rhymes said:
Zhuge Liang was a Warlord.... not a Leige... thats why i cant...
and i plan on adding officers and UUs to the game... if i can figure out how to make graphics...
ohcrapitsnico
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How much in detail are you thinking of getting with units?
darkonion
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ohcrapitsnico said:
the basics.... ***refresh the page to get my responces faster***
darkonion
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OK... so far i have a TON of **** laid out for this mod... but it wont let me even play it... the "Play Now" option is grayed out... help guys....
HourlyDaily
Man-o-Mercy
Darkonion - you have a scenario - use either Single Player/Scenario or Custom Scenario to load it.
Sleeping_Dragon
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I'm gonna take a look at what you have now. My personal opinion.
Shu
Zhuge Liang
Ma Chao
Guan Yu
Zhang Fei
Huang Zhong
Zhao Yun
Zhang Wei
Liu Bei
Wei
Sima Yi
Xiahou Dun
Xiahou Yuan
Zhang He
Cao Cao
Cao Pi
I will deffinatly use this mod if you don't mind for my scenario.
Shu
Zhuge Liang
Ma Chao
Guan Yu
Zhang Fei
Huang Zhong
Zhao Yun
Zhang Wei
Liu Bei
Wei
Sima Yi
Xiahou Dun
Xiahou Yuan
Zhang He
Cao Cao
Cao Pi
I will deffinatly use this mod if you don't mind for my scenario.
ohcrapitsnico
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Remember to put in the barbarian nomads to the north of wei as they were very important.
darkedone02
The Suggestor
good luck on making this mod very special, I like to see this mod have a custom Tech Tree of Ancient China's Technology and also so battle music for this game as well. So that this will be awesome like Dynasty Warriors.
if there is gonna be a tech tree - Art of War - should be a tech. while the original text was written before the period, many "heros" in this period would write their war manuals based on it, including Cao Cao.
the Art of War is also a guarded secret in the imperial times, because the book teaches alternative strategy that could be rebellious... so few actually managed to be learned in the Art of War....
the Art of War is also a guarded secret in the imperial times, because the book teaches alternative strategy that could be rebellious... so few actually managed to be learned in the Art of War....
darkedone02
The Suggestor
seems civilization 4 have beating you to this, as there is a game like this in warlords, it's china unitedfication. It's like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, but different.
darkonion
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i cant get any of the graphics to work or even get it to allow me to play it... help guys... please.... im tired of being frustrated at myself... someone take a crack at it and see if u can fix it up...
I shall keep posted!
darkonion
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ohcrapitsnico said:
now that i think about it... the Yellow Turbans will make PERFECT barbs...
darkonion
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darkedone02 said:
maybe im taking the wrong approach... what if... and only a "what if"... we made this into and rpg-like game... u choose ur officer... they become ur unit... and u fight barbs untill someone get a # of kills (100 will do....)...
ohcrapitsnico
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I would be more than willing to help with this, by the way I'm not so great starting from scratch but I could definitely help with editing off of the chinese unification from warlords. Is your idea about the officers like as in the warlord aspect of alexander in the alexander the great scenario? Unfortunately I have'n got a great knowledge of xml I have done significant modding to the Genghis Khan scenario with success though.
