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RR4- Spain on a lake..... Again :p

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession Games' started by r_rolo1, Apr 20, 2009.

  1. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    And we blew it :p

    The fact is that a very unforgiving start and some lack of focus in the first sets made our civ to go hopelesslly backward and we decided to retire after being fighting cuirassers with trebuchets and with no signs of eventual recovery. So, I decided to run.....

    :old:RR4- Spain on a lake....Again:old:

    Ruleset ( completely copied from RB1 ...... )
    Clarification of more problematic issues ( vassals territory, for a example ) will follow democratic vote with myself being a tie breaker if needed. Madrid being the holy city of 3 religions is optional, but strongly encouraged ( if we go that way, I expect full focus :/ )

    Game settings:
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    I decided to go Fractal with low sea level as sugested

    And the start:
    Spoiler :

    Surprisingly it has Spain and a lake ( again :p ) , but this time it looks a little more player friendly.

    Roster will count with 5 players and 2 alternates. Players of RR3 will have priority for the spots.

    Roster:
    r_rolo1
    Ad Hoc
    LKendter
    GreyFox
    Thy_Spellcraft

    ( names marked with (?) are players of RR3 that already showed interest in the game )

    Alternates
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    Hopefully we'll not have to break our variant to win, as RB1 team had to ;) And maybe, just maybe, winning would be nice :D
     

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  2. mystyfly

    mystyfly Knight of Cydonia

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    Looks like you'll have to settle 1N. That settles this discussion at least :p

    Good luck guys :hammer:
     
  3. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    1 N? :confused: and lose the possibility of making a lighthouse for that lake?
     
  4. mystyfly

    mystyfly Knight of Cydonia

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    So you're actually planning to settle on a non-plains-hill-tile? :p

    More seriously, you'll only have two coastal tiles when settling 1N but get a river (and it does look like it is adjectant to lots of future-BFC-tiles) :deal:
     
  5. LKendter

    LKendter Exterminate, exterminate, exterminate!!! Supporter

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    Well official sign me back in. Lets make a clear religion plan this game - I don't want another non-hyrda game...
     
  6. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    I agree with the Hydra. If it is to go down, atleast we leave a beautiful corpse :D
     
  7. GreyFox

    GreyFox Make it so ...

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    I am insulted by the (?) besides my name ... ;)

    While what mysty says is true, I am hesitant in losing one turn of research when we are chasing hydra.
     
  8. Ad Hoc

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    i'm in

    No one expects the Budd/Hin/Jud inquisition. but lets at least try for it. :goodjob:
     
  9. Ad Hoc

    Ad Hoc Prince

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    Chasing the hydra i'd settle in place, one turn of research is one turn of research.
     
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    Thy_Spellcraft King

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  11. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    Thy, you're in....

    And Mr Fox, the (?) was there just until confirmation :p
     
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    Thy_Spellcraft King

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    Stupid lurker question: In the last game and in this one, Spain seems to be on a small lake which gives it 2 fpt in each tile, and on a larger lake (sea?) that gives it 1 fpt in each tile. Does this mean Spain doesn't get the full benefit that it might on a different (mid-sized?) lake? Or is there some other element that comes into play here?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  14. mystyfly

    mystyfly Knight of Cydonia

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    The "idea" is to have a mediocre (2f) tile with max commerce (2) to work while getting as many of the early religions as possible. More than 1 2/0/2 tile is unnecessary as it will be decided who gets the the early religions befoure you reach pop2.

    Being connected to the ocean only means that you can build a lighthouse and later caravels/galleons.
     
  15. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    So, no furious discussion about where to settle? :eek:

    Well, you still have 24 h, since i took more time playing the SGOTM than I was expecting. :D
     
  16. LKendter

    LKendter Exterminate, exterminate, exterminate!!! Supporter

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    I vote settle in place - I want the Hyrda, and don't want to delay a turn
     
  17. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    Well, we wanted a hydra, so we had to start by meditation. But first, settling on spot:
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    And we started finding neighbours:
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    Nice.... loony neighbour with Myst :/

    But it looks he didn't gone religious:
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    One down....

    More neighbours.....
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    Cyrus came from the NW and Zara from the east. Monty, zara and cyrus in the same continent... this will be interesting.

    Hut luck:
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    But 3 turns before our Poly......
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    To add to our miseries, it was in our island. Cyrus. Given that he doesn't start with Myst, he probably beelined Poly.... Rats :(

    I decided to play until 1 turn before poly:
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    No 3 headed hydra for us.....
     

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  18. mystyfly

    mystyfly Knight of Cydonia

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    Oh there can be a 3headed hydra for you. You got the oracle, why not get COL? With judaism, that's 2 3 religions. And there's still theo (bulb) if you're desperate.

    IMO believing to found the 3 early religions on monarch is unrealistic anyway.

    Looks like a VERY interesting game here. Land looks good, good enought for fighting over it :hammer:. Also, I don't remember seing such a long mountaing range near a river ever before :eek:.

    Really looking foreware to seing how it goes ;) Good luck :D
     
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    GreyFox Make it so ...

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    Too bad abt Hindu .... however, we would certainly be able to get Judaism and probably two or 3 more (CoL/Theology/Philo) if we set our mind to it.

    I am not sure abt Oracle after SH ... shouldn't we switch to oracle immediately?

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