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Rugby vs American football

Discussion in 'Sports Talk' started by otago, Feb 4, 2008.

  1. otago

    otago Deity

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    Now both games are better than soccer, down here
    the only people who play soccer are those who missed
    the physical for the chess team cheer leading squad.

    But, why the complete stoppage of play so often in
    AFL, why the need for helmets and padding ?

    This a a rugby prop who has played for a number
    of years, you will notice he has kept his good looks
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39190000/jpg/_39190844_get_meeuws_300.jpg
    Rugby is a game for thugs, played by gentlemen.
     
  2. Arwon

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    Different physics. American footballers are larger and many of them are designed SOLELY to smash into each other repeatedly.
     
  3. Nobody

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    i have played both as a big guy i liked grid iron better, i think rugby is a lot better better to watch and officially i will always vote for rugby. I think the all blacks could win the super bowl with a months football training.

    One thing though, a lot of people say how tough rugby players are and how weak grid iron players are because they wear Armour while rugby dosent. You get harder from different angles in football, in rugby you only get hit if you have the ball, in grid iron its from any angle the entire game. Rugby is way harder fittness wise.
     
  4. Brighteye

    Brighteye intuitively Bayesian

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    Thanks Nobody; that was quite informative.
    I've never played American football, but I like rugby a lot.
     
  5. Masquerouge

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    Mmmh no. That whole quarterback thing? It requires a bit more than a month's training :)
     
  6. otago

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    The worst injury I suffered in rugby was from
    hitting a ruck at speed, with another player
    from the other side hitting me head on.

    We both suffered broken cheekbones, teeth
    missing etc.
    I have often wondered why the wife puts a bag on
    my head :D
     
  7. Lozzy_Ozzy

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    The padding? Thats because in American football there's a lot more space to accelerate before you come across the next player, so the collisions will generally be worse...

    Still, I do prefer rugby. Pity about the England vs Wales results.
     
  8. Masquerouge

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    Pity? For you maybe. For the rest of us, it was PARTY TIME!

    ;)

    I like both sports. I also like football. Rugby and American football lack a proper world cup, though.
     
  9. Brighteye

    Brighteye intuitively Bayesian

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    Eh? Last autumn not proper enough for you? I know that England should win any proper World Cup, but it was close enough.
     
  10. The Yankee

    The Yankee The New Yawker Retired Moderator

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    I need to learn how rugby is really played, since that looks quite entertaining. But yeah, with all the padding and helmets, you still feel it when you are right on the line. I played high school football and I still felt it. The helmets were put in after players were getting killed playing football way back when.
     
  11. Red Door

    Red Door Man of Mayhem

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    Rugby is more fun to play, as a player of both. But there are so many technical aspects of football one can admire as a fan.
     
  12. Smokey_Monkey

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    Ever Heard of Jonah Lomu? 1.96m (6'5"), 120kgs (270lb ish), with a sub-11 seconds 100m time!:eek: No wonder he ran over everyone. I personally think Rugby is far more demanding simply because you have to be FAR more aerobically fitter ASWELL as Strength and Power and Speed etc....

    Edit: By the way as you can see, I'm Welsh so I was ecstatic all weekend (rugby=religion here) and we beat England in Twickenham (i.e. in London) for the first time in my life!!! :)
     
  13. Communisto

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    Both games are great fun to play. I don't think I'd be able to pick one over the other.
     
  14. The Yankee

    The Yankee The New Yawker Retired Moderator

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    Ah, so they did win. My science professor is from Wales and mentioned that game as it was upcoming. Apparently a bunch of bars on the East Side open early to show those games.
     
  15. Whomp

    Whomp Keep Calm and Carry On Retired Moderator

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    I'm pretty sure any of these guys could be studs in either sport.









    I like the concept of constant play, physically demanding and not ending a play when the player is down however there's something strategic that I find attractive when play stops in football. Then it's back to that fast bursts of mass collision inside of a battle to win a war....moving the sticks.
    I think someone once said rugby is a contact sport and football is a collision sport

    In rugby, other than the scrum which is just dangerous, players move to receive a toss instead of exacting a block. In football, nearly every player on the field is hitting someone so the goals are different. In rugby, regardless of how many extra meters (yards) a player gets it doesn't matter. In football, you need to stop that guy in his tracks.

    As for the padding, I think anyone who's received a helmet to their sternum will tell you it ain't fun especially after you just fought off a pulling guard twice your size.
     
  16. The Yankee

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    It's also not fun getting a finger caught in a facemask. :cringe:
     
  17. Wolfe Tone

    Wolfe Tone Which Way Did He Go?

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    Rugby (union of course) is way better. No padding designed for girly-men and they have to play constantly with only a short break in the middle. I can't help but thinking that American Football might be better if there was only one set players for both defence and offence. Also the whole 15 seconds of action followed by 3 minutes of break gets old real fast. It just seems so slow. Although it farily enjoyable, prehaps an edited version would be better with just play after play after play. Usually it's on quite late at night here, so it's something to go to sleep to. I find it strange calling American Football slow, while I can quite easily watch test match cricket for 5 days, ah well.
     
  18. The Yankee

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    Sounds like the Arena Football League is just for you!

    They generally play with one set, though they have an "offensive/defensive specialist" position.
     
  19. Masquerouge

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    It's a nice cup, but it's not really a WORLD cup, if you know what I mean?
     
  20. King of Town

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    the real question is baseball or cricket isn't it? I think that's the question on everyones mind...
     

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