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Ruleset - Rough Draft

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Demo Game III: RPG' started by Chieftess, May 1, 2003.

  1. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    Fundamental Rules

    1. The stories and enjoyment of the players are the primary goals of the RPG. Rules exist as a framework to promote a cooperative and fun environment.

    2. Thou shalt not resurrect characters, locations, plots, etc from previous RPGs.

    3. Thou shalt not kill another player’s character without express permission from that player or the Game Manager. Same for any major alteration in another player’s character’s fortune, health or plotline.

    4. Each player may have several characters. When posting make it very clear which character is involved.

    5. Storylines often require one person to declare actions/dialog for another player’s characters. Be nice. Anything you declare that another player’s character is doing or saying should be in line for how that player has developed his character. When a storyline involves several characters give the other players a chance to contribute. Don’t jump the story beyond their chance to respond.

    6. Thou shalt stay in the bounds of the demogame. Local technology is limited to what is possible in the demogame. If we are at war with a country in the demogame then we are at war in the RPG as well. We are not at war in the RPG unless we are at war in the demogame. Try to build in and build upon the demogame events in the RPG storylines.

    7. Thou shalt stay in the bounds of reasonable suspension of disbelief. Your character may believe he is a vampire that can fly and mesmerize with his stare but he can’t actually physically do that. His actions must be explainable in a real world sense.

    8. No take backs. Unless the Game Manager determines that an improper or illegal event has been put into a storyline everything that has been written happens.

    9. New rules can be approved by either a majority of the current Managers (each player receives 1 vote regardless of how many Manager positions they hold) or a super majority of players in a 48 hour poll. Each manager holds veto power over their own ruleset for rules approved by the Manager method.

    10. At the end of each month there will be a support poll for each manager to continue in that position. If any manager fails to receive a majority of support that position will be put through an election process.

    11. The Game Manager has overall authority for activities in the RPG. He determines random events and can insert/remove elements to guide and enhance storylines. He determines when characters die from age or unpredicted (non-storyline) violence or accident. When he determines that an event will occur that directly affects a character he notifies that player so the player can work it into his storyline. If the player can’t do so the Game Manager will write the event story himself.

    12. The Item Manager has overall authority for all items in the RPG. His responsibilities include tracking the exceptional items owned by each character and monitoring to prevent abuse or introduction of inappropriate goods.

    Character Rules

    1. When a character is created the player decides what caste it will be (see Nobility section for a list of castes). Each player may only create one character at a time that is of high gentry or better birth. A single player may have more than 1 upper caste character if their lower caste characters rise in position). Not all castes will be available at all times as government styles, technology, etc modify what is available. There is a maximum percentage of noble characters to non-noble characters so creation of a noble may be disallowed based on current numbers.

    2. Each character has a life expectancy equal to that shown in the current save of the demogame. Each game turn is considered one year in the RPG for character age. A character will die of old age at the life expectancy plus/minus 10%.

    3. Character statistics are the innate traits of the character. These are determined by a combination of assignment and random contribution.

    4. Character abilities are the learned skills of the character. These are determined by the player.

    5. Characters may only have a maximum of 10 descendants (to keep it simple), however, there are risks (see events). The firstborn automatically gains a 'birthright' (The firstborn will get all of the inheritence), which lasts until Nationalism, but could continue under a Monarchy. Code of Laws allow for wills. Family Crests can be made with Fuedalism.

    6. Each character will have 2 distinct traits (see traits), which can be passed on from generation to generation.

    7. The Character Manager has overall authority over all things character related. He can add/remove/modify as he feels appropriate in order to prevent unbalanced or game threatening characters.

    Land Rules

    1. Might makes right. The despot starts out with everything and everybody else grovels at his feet.

    2. As territory grows it gets beyond the ability of one character to control. New nobles are raised to run these territories. They are sworn to allegiance but rebellions have been known to happen. The despot can actually give away land but this generally only happens as a reward to a long time loyal follower. More often the lesser nobles are running the despot’s land in service to him.

    3. It’s possible for there to be more than one despot. If a revolt succeeds and is not put down by the despot that territory is then a separate entity. Note that newly acquired territory in the demogame still goes to the despot who holds the demogame capital.

    4. In a monarchy new land goes to the most logical king. That is the royal character that has adjoining lands, nearby capital, etc.

    5. In republic and democracy new land is offered for general sale to the populace.

    6. In communism all land reverts to control of the government.

    7. Land provides a number of gold, shields and food that it would generate if worked in a city. If no city controlled by the tile owner can access the tile it never makes more than what is shown when right clicking on the tile in the game. Gold can be converted to food or shields with one gold making 1/2 of either. If currency hasn’t been discovered yet all gold produced must be taken as shields or food.

    8. Cities produce the number of gold, shields and food for the tile they reside on plus an additional gold for each population point.

    Addition
    9. A land registry may not be kept until MapMaking.

    9. A single contiguous land territory that has at least 5 * P (where “P” is the number of provinces in the demogame) will receive an additional gold per tile in the territory. If the territory has 10 * P receives 2 gold per tile in the territory and one that has 15 * P receives 3 gold per tile in the territory.

    10. The Land Manager has overall authority over land issues and is responsible for keeping track of ownership, territories and the base g/f/s values of the tiles.

    Unit Rules

    1. Each character may raise a certain number of units per chat. This is based on their caste level and modified by their statistics and abilities.

    2. Each character also has a maximum number of units that they can maintain command over. This is based on their territory controlled and modified by their statistics and abilities. (Note that with the proper statistics and abilities a character can raise and maintain troops regardless of their caste level.)

    3. Each unit costs one shield and one food per chat to be maintained in fighting order. A unit without this support becomes a half strength unit. After 2 chats at half strength the unit will disperse.

    4. Each unit costs a number of shields to raise that is equal to 1/10 of the number of shields to build it in the Civ3 game.

    5. Mercenary units must be supported with gold and cost gold equivalent to their unit raising cost each chat. (Example: It costs 3 shields to raise a swordsman. It would cost 3g per chat to maintain a mercenary swordsman.)

    6. Units are stationed in a territory and can be assumed to be located anywhere inside that territory. A unit can move into (through) one territory per chat for each of its Civ3 movement points. If movement is not contested and is along roads a unit can move into (through) 3 territories per chat for each of its Civ3 movement points. A unit must always stop movement when it enters a contested territory.

    7. Units in a contested area will fight using their unit attack/defense values from the Civ3 game modified by character warfare skills, terrain, defenses, etc. Forces may be destroyed, rebuffed, routed, etc.

    8. The Conflict Manager has overall authority over all units and is responsible for tracking the units for each character, their location, movement, upkeep, status and all conflicts resulting from actions in contested territories.

    Economic Rules

    1. The economy of the RPG grows with the technologies known in the demogame. There is no effective economy until the discovery of currency. At that point each character will begin earning a default amount of gold based on their caste level. This is a small amount assumed to be the result of their basic living activities.

    2. Currency also brings about the advent of shops. These are personal or collective establishments and must be appropriate to the skills and abilities of the proprietor/owner. Each PLAYER will be able to start one shop during the course of the game.

    3. Banking technology allows the addition of companies and banks. Companies are large organizations that are owned and run by shareholders. The focus of a company does not have to be based on the skills and abilities of the owners. Banks are lending institutions that may process loans and advances for private and commercial interests.

    4. The Corporation technology allows stocks and corporations. Stocks are portions of a company that can be bought and sold as a commodity. Corporations are multi-company organizations that can act in their own right to purchase/sell stocks, companies, corporations, land, etc according to their charters.

    5. The Economic Manager has overall authority over the economy and is responsible for approving shops, companies and corporations. He also tracks the amount of gold that each character, company and corporation has and bankrupts a those that cannot cover expenditures.

    Nobility Rules

    1. All characters begin play in a specific caste (Imperial, Royal, High Noble, Noble, Upper Gentry, Lower Gentry, Common). It is possible for a character to become a higher (or lower) caste through appointments and storyline effects.

    2. During despotism all peers and titles are under the direction of the despot. The despot may grant and take titles on a whim. Granted titles are almost always bound to an appropriate territory.

    3. During monarchy the noble houses become forces in their own right and sponsored characters may be given title despite the wishes of a king. The king no longer has the power to remove titles but a council of nobles may be able to do so.

    4. During republic any character may achieve a noble title with the expenditure of sufficient resources.

    5. In democracy new titles cannot be gained though hereditary ones may still be passed on.

    6. In communism all titles except the gentry are lost.

    7. The Nobility Manager has overall authority of noble titles and is responsible for tracking the noble houses as well as the individual titles of each character.

    Addition
    8. After common, each caste adds 5 years to that character's lifespan. This simulates the living conditions for that character.

    Events

    1. Events are defined by the Game Manager and will be placed in the Game Manager thread.

    2. There is no limit on the number of events that can occur. It is possible that two events can cancel eachother out.

    3. Events can be nation-wide, local, or occur to a character (or characters). They can be disaterous, beneficial, or neutral. It's also possible for a localized (or individual) event to become nation-wide, such as a plague.
     
  2. Chieftess

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    Character Stats Traits

    These are things that are required:

    Addition
    Character Status - Alive/Dead. This is for record keeping. When your character dies,

    Addition
    Character's Health - Good, Crippled, Plague This is another record keeping stat which could effect the character or other characters.


    Character's Age - The age of your character. This must be at, or less than the max age shown in the latest demogame save. The age limit will be posted in the Character Manager Thread.

    Caste - the starting caste of the character.

    Stats

    You can give your character stats (from 0 - 20), which will determine how well he/she can perform their particular trait. You get 65 points to distribute to each character. 10 is average.

    Agility - Determines the athleticness and quickness of the character.
    Discipline - Determines how industrious they are at performing tasks, and how they can lead people and show patience.
    Charisma - Determines how the person appears to other characters.
    Constitution - Determines the physical strength and health of the character
    Intelligence - Determines how the character is intellectually, and their ability to solve problems.

    Traits

    Any character can have up to 3 of these traits that can be passed on from generation to generation. These traits are generic abilities that the character is geared towards. A descendant of will get random traits from their parents.

    Code:
    Agricultural	- The character is more geared towards a farming lifestyle.
    Belligerent	- The character is more geared towards a militant and aggressive personality. Can be rebellious and/or adventurous.
    Engineering	- The character is more geared towards construction, inventions and other craftwork such as metal working.
    Humanitarianist	- The character is more geared towards community invovlement (sewing, cooking, etc.)
    Intellectual 	- The character is more geared towards theories, maths, logic, puzzles, strategies
    Maritime	- The character is more geared towards aquatic activities (fishing, sailing)
    Merchantile	- The character is more geared towards commerce and trade.
    Naturalist	- The character is more geared towards knowledge of nature, plants and animals, skyline, and surroundings
    Logophilic	- The character is more geared towards literature, poetry, the spoken word (speaking and manipulating the spoken language)
    Cultural	- The character is more geared towards music, artform, and is mathematically inclined.
    Philosophical	- The character is more geared towards logic, debates, and philosophy.
    Pious		- The character is more geared towards a passive, and humble personality.
    Scholarly	- The character is more geared towards scholastics (jack of all trades, master of one)
    Mechanical	- The character is more geared towards mechanics. Can be industrious and is mathematically inclined.
    Theistic	- The character is more geared towards religous themes.
    Tracking	- The character is more geared towards skills involving scouting, stealth and hunting
    You can pick and mix traits. For example, you could have a character that's a natualist and specializes in tracking. Such a character might make for an excellent scout. Another could have an Intellectual, Maritime, and engineering trait, and be a general. Another could have an Agricultural and Intellectual trait.
     
  3. Shaitan

    Shaitan der Besucher

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    Looks fine to me.
     
  4. Sir John

    Sir John The evil one...

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    looks great. lets start the voting..
     
  5. Sheep

    Sheep Orange Shrooms!

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    I agere
     
  6. Padma

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    Looking at the nobility "castes" we had by the end of the last DG, I can follow all these castes except Upper/Lower Gentry. There, the Gentry was divided into Baronet, Knight, and Squire. What will we consider "Upper" and what "Lower" Gentry?

    :D
     
  7. Shaitan

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    Upper Gentry are the more important gentleborn. Those that are ambassadors, nouveau riche, large business owners, etc. Baronet, Knight and Squire earn an automatic Lower Gentry but those people can attain the Upper Gentry through development (storylines).

    In short, it's often a judgement call. The Upper Gentry would be the cream of the Gentry. One other thing - Upper Gentry are welcome in Noble circles. Lower Gentry most often are not.
     
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    Padma the Absent Admin Administrator Supporter

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    Oooh, a judgement call. I can make those. :D
     
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    Civanator Deity

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    where do we create our characters, or is that not around yet?
     
  10. Stuck_as_a_Mac

    Stuck_as_a_Mac Aptenodytes forsteri

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    Regarding land: please add the fact that there can be no register of land other then what the despot says until Map making and only then can land be officially be sold/traded/ect (dis- please clarify that. it was based on your idea)
     
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    map making
    the idea is:
    there is no official registry of who owns which land...
    no real ownership. people stay where they are and work and live. people get thrown out of land if some stronger person comes around.
    the people should try to "occupy" land and take it. if the despot wants to controll all the land, he/she will have to think of a way how to roleplay that :)
    anyways, there will be a registry for land with mapmaking. so an assesment will take place who owns which land, then the despot will decide who has to give land away and who gets new land. he maybe wants to take all the land under his controll. of course, the existing "owners" will maybe not be please and revolt to keep their land.... so the despot must also be a good diplomat ;-)

    i hope to get the idea through here :))
     
  12. Octavian X

    Octavian X is not a pipe.

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    I really don't want to see too many decendants in the game. The goal of adding death, in my opinion, was to ensure that not everybody would end up being a noble. In reality, the upper classes have always been far outnumbered by the lower classes. There were far fewer knights fighting in the Middle Ages than we all think.

    There should only be a chance that the you reincarnate becomes a descendant. If we allow everyone to more or less keep what they had earned through their past lives, we end in the same situation of the old RPG: everyone is a noble in a far too boring world. No conflict between players, but between made with made up characters where the players would always triumph.

    Of course, what you would've created would not have to go away with you. It could simply exist in the same reality, but owned by an unseen NPC, or another player who had be a peasent in his last life.
     
  13. Plexus

    Plexus Architeuthidae puericomedentis

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    @Oct-Same here, I don't want to over complicate things.
     
  14. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    Ok, I will create a poll based on the current (and added ideas to the) draft.
     
  15. Shaitan

    Shaitan der Besucher

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    You also have the option of simply polling the managers.
     
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    2. Each character has a life expectancy equal to that shown in the current save of the demogame. Each game turn is considered one year in the RPG for character age. I propose this be changed, or else characters will die in about 2-3 T/C's. Maybe to like 1/4 or 1/2 year. I think 1/4.
     
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    Shaitan der Besucher

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    As the game progresses the lifespan will increase.
     
  18. Octavian X

    Octavian X is not a pipe.

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    Here's a crazy idea...

    To better simulate the passage of years, we 'reset' the game ever 2 months or so. All characters are deleted, but the various territories that had been set up would remain, and characters would be randomly assigned to them.

    With this reset, we can say the game moved forward a few thousand years realistically, since this game moves on a day-by-day basis.
     
  19. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    Have many people lived to be 80 in the ancient days? No. Men fought in skirmishes, and probably didn't live long, and women would often die of complications due to childbirth.
     
  20. Stuck_as_a_Mac

    Stuck_as_a_Mac Aptenodytes forsteri

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    ct- when we get to later on, yes, many people lived to arround 60. especially the romans. many of the great orators were in their 60s when they died.
     

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