[RD] Russia Invades Ukraine: Eight

Still looks a bit isolated to me, let me quote the great American philosopher Warren Buffet “If you can't find the sucker at the table, you're it."

It is not as if they will win the war in Europe in Arabia is it, let's have some real war news

www.theguardian.com

Ukraine recaptures frontline village amid signs of slowing Russian advance

Pischane in Donetsk back under Kyiv’s control as Zelenskyy renews call for fighting to end ‘with just and lasting peace’
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Since early this month, the Russians’ progress has stalled. Russian bloggers say Ukrainian drones dominate the skies and have been methodically destroying armoured vehicles. Russian troops have to walk 10km on foot, with many not arriving alive, they say.

The high rate of Russian casualties has had a demoralising effect on forward combat units. Snowy conditions and a lack of tree cover has made it easier for Ukrainian defenders to pick off infantry soldiers before they reached the contact line, they add.
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Best reorient your war economy to produce more donkeys, you'll need them ;)
 
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saamohod said:
+ North Korea. Three nuclear states against one non-nuclear
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That's just a matter of time, you have the knowledge, expertise, the raw materials and the motive, if Israel can do it, so can you.

Only thing holding back was the US "alliance" - that's not worth anything as you can see now.
 
Snowygerry said:
let's have some real war news
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You've posted that already.
Since then, Russia resumed advance north of Velikaya Novoselka, after pause.
Today, entered Ulakly and Constantinopol, in Kurakhovo direction.
Yesterday, Ukrainian occupants were kicked out of Sverdlikovo.
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So the US and Russia went ahead with their thing. No surprises.

Effectively unilateral "peace talks" won't have any effect if Ukraine won't recognize the agreements. They'll have to put them on the scale, however, in their decision as to whether to continue the fight. If the price of "peace" is too high, then continued resistance is preferable. Most especially if Europe, also sidelined, agrees to continue to support Ukraine. Which is indirectly their business as well, and they have already been contributing more than their transatlantic pseudo-partners.

All of this is essentially an excuse for Trump's America to back out of the whole issue. Come up with whatever deal, regardless of the main victim's (or their actual neighbors') presence or input, and then huff, throw up arms and leave if said victim inexplicably rejects all that very hard work, "We got them peace but they didn't want it. They're unreasonable. Back to trampling constitutional and civil rights on our own land, bye!"

Fun sidenote is that Trump demanded Europe invest more in its defense, but then goes ahead and intends to make unilateral decisions on critical European defense matters with Europe's enemies.*

*Not that rhyme or reason are expected in this second orange era.
 
Nice.

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It is really bad that when the US stops supporting Ukraine, some believe that it's a signal for the Eu to take over. It's as if they don't realize that the Eu is fully dependent on the US (which is partly also a result of cutting energy ties to Russia) and literally cannot go against it currently.
 
The maddest ones seem to be the ones that were the most insulted when, years back, some Americans started mentioning that their friends were weak and it would be better if they would make themselves strong.
 
Kyriakos said:
It is really bad that when the US stops supporting Ukraine, some believe that it's a signal for the Eu to take over. It's as if they don't realize that the Eu is fully dependent on the US (which is partly also a result of cutting energy ties to Russia) and literally cannot go against it currently.
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European Defense Stocks Rise on NATO Remarks on Military Spending Boost​

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said the alliance’s spending target would be considerably more than 3% of GDP​




European defense stocks are on the rise following remarks from North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies about the need to boost Western defense budgets significantly to continue to support Ukraine and deter Russia from any potential attacks against NATO territory.

Shares in Germany’s Renk Group jumped 12% to 28.08 euros in early trade Monday, while Rheinmetall’s rose 8.4% to 885.8 euros, and Hensoldt’s were up 6.5% at 43.33 euros.

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European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, meanwhile, told the conference that the 27 members of the EU currently spend a combined 2% of their GDP on defense, but this would need to increase by “hundreds of billions of euros” in additional investment every year.

She said the EU’s executive arm wants to exempt defense from EU government spending limits, and proposed a package of tailor-made solutions to help member states address specific barriers preventing them from boosting their defense expenditure.




BRUSSELS, Feb 18 (Reuters) - The European Union is discussing how to finance a sharp increase in its defence readiness to deter any possible future attack from Russia and become less dependent for security on the United States.
With the European Commission estimating EU defence spending needs at 500 billion euros ($523.00 billion) over the next 10 years, the solution is likely to include a combination of options, rather than a single one. Here are some of the ideas under discussion
 
Kyriakos said:
It is really bad that when the US stops supporting Ukraine, some believe that it's a signal for the Eu to take over. It's as if they don't realize that the Eu is fully dependent on the US (which is partly also a result of cutting energy ties to Russia) and literally cannot go against it currently.
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Europe's overdependence on the United States for its own defense has been a major, ongoing malfunction for years. A stubborn child of the West's vast overestimation of Russian capabilities that lives to this day.

It's shameful that it may take Ukraine's downfall, after 3 years of warfare and persistent Western pussy-footing, for Europeans to wake up. They may well not get their act together before that.

Bonus fact: Trump's tariffs, detrimental to absolutely everyone involved (even his voter base, directly), are likely to push Europe towards China. America is simultaneously painting itself into a corner, as a backwater aligned with autocrats, while propelling the PRC to superpower status.

Gedemon said:

European Defense Stocks Rise on NATO Remarks on Military Spending Boost​

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said the alliance’s spending target would be considerably more than 3% of GDP​




European defense stocks are on the rise following remarks from North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies about the need to boost Western defense budgets significantly to continue to support Ukraine and deter Russia from any potential attacks against NATO territory.

Shares in Germany’s Renk Group jumped 12% to 28.08 euros in early trade Monday, while Rheinmetall’s rose 8.4% to 885.8 euros, and Hensoldt’s were up 6.5% at 43.33 euros.

[...]

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, meanwhile, told the conference that the 27 members of the EU currently spend a combined 2% of their GDP on defense, but this would need to increase by “hundreds of billions of euros” in additional investment every year.

She said the EU’s executive arm wants to exempt defense from EU government spending limits, and proposed a package of tailor-made solutions to help member states address specific barriers preventing them from boosting their defense expenditure.




BRUSSELS, Feb 18 (Reuters) - The European Union is discussing how to finance a sharp increase in its defence readiness to deter any possible future attack from Russia and become less dependent for security on the United States.
With the European Commission estimating EU defence spending needs at 500 billion euros ($523.00 billion) over the next 10 years, the solution is likely to include a combination of options, rather than a single one. Here are some of the ideas under discussion
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Rise and shine. Grow a pair and stand up to the crazed, decrepit old man to the east. :please:
 
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^ Meanwhile, US defense contractors Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and General Dynamics are tanking since the Nov. election.

I think we should just officially name tanking your own national industries, as 'The Trump Effect'. ;)
 
I am happy about Trump doing the neceseary steps for europe wake up and take the place it correspond to, i wonder how this can benefit USA. It is the opposite they have been working for since WW2. It is even worse for Russia of course. Sometimes i think Trump is simply dumb, then a Russian asset, then dumb again. pretty disconcerting.
 
Thorgalaeg said:
I am happy about Trump doing the neceseary steps for europe wake up and take the place it correspond to, i wonder how this can benefit USA. It is the opposite they have working for since WW2. It is even worse for Russia of course. Sometimes i think Trump is simply dumb, then a Russian asset, then dumber. pretty disconcerting.
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There is no benefit for the USA. And as I mentioned earlier, the nonsensical tariffs plan is going to be a mutually damaging fluster**** that's only going to get Europe to priorize commerce with other powers. Like China.

America is pretty much yielding its title of global power with its retreat from Europe and bristling tariffs for all, mindblowingly oblivious to the fact they cut both ways.
 
Lord Shadow said:
There is no benefit for the USA. And as I mentioned earlier, the nonsensical tariffs plan is going to be a mutually damaging fluster**** that's only going to get Europe to priorize commerce with other powers. Like China.
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Forget the notion of EU-China integration. Europe is busy introducing it's own tariffs against China, closing it's markets to Chinese EV's, steel and restricting the flow of Chinese capital into EU as a matter of principle. Been going on for decades. Not to mention the song and dance about evils of communism, which constantly occupies the hearts and minds of "independent" press. Europe have been disconnected from Eurasia by senior partners for a reason and it shall remain disconnected until the leadership in key countries is displaced. If Wendel, Farage or similarly-minded individuals succeed, then yes, I can see a good chance EU start leaning towards warmer relations with China. But will China accept its stray neighbours back into the fold? China has its own empire to build, guided by very different principles than those in EU or USA. The Chinese are wealthy enough to be able to choose which friends they do want to have.

I'd venture a guess we're heading towards a higher degree of multipolarity with at least 4 major players. Each of them fighting to add more territories to their "ecosystem" and rejecting influence of other major players.
 
red_elk said:
Russia's international isolation is deepening :)

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That's why Russia started the war, remember, they wanted to be heard by the USA, and they've finally won that right, congrats !

and they only had to pay with just one million casualties, a destroyed economy, their position as an arm dealer, almost their whole cold war stock of armors, 3 AWACS, one Su-57, one capital ship (and half a fleet), one submarine and a few donkeys.
 
^ Putin better spare some donkeys, so he can start breeding the next Russian Wunderwaffen; mules.
 
Gedemon said:
That's why Russia started the war, remember, they wanted to be heard by the USA, and they've finally won that right, congrats !

and they only had to pay with just one million casualties, a destroyed economy, their position as an arm dealer, almost their whole cold war stock of armors, 3 AWACS, one Su-57, one capital ship (and half a fleet), one submarine and a few donkeys.
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That leaves them with their most modern tanks, which their factories can easily produce by the dozen per year.

Consider this highly classified picture of their vaunted T-14 Armata, seen far and wide across Ukraine:

Spoiler :
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